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  • pilgrimPete
    S2Forum Buff
    • Dec 2013
    • 45
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #1

    help needed....

    I have purchased a dump valve from Dresden in Germany and located the old valve....the recirculating valve under the front right headlamp.

    the problem is this.....there are supposed to be three hoses attached and to my shock I could only feel the two bigger ones....the boost pipe has either been removed or has worked itself free,which brings me on to the subject....where the f*ck is the actuator as I was hoping to follow the boost pipe from the valve to find it?!!

    I have a coupe Quattro 1990

    any help will be greatly appreciated

    Thanx
  • newsh
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    • Aug 2003
    • 16226
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    On the 3B the vacuum pipe which actuates the Diverter valve is threaded through a couple of short tubes welded to the metal boost pipe which goes from the front of the cam cover back and round the corner to the throttle body. It then carries on and is connected to a spigot on the back of the Inlet Manifold.

    So there is no actuator as such, valve is opened by the vacuum in the manifold when you shut the throttle.

    When the throttle is closed the boost pressure in front of the throttle has nowhere to go and would stall the turbo so the DV opens and recirculates this pressure back to the face of the turbo thereby keeping it spinning so it's ready to boost again in the next gear.
    Last edited by newsh; 18 January 2014, 23:27.

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    • newsh
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      • Aug 2003
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      #3
      Here is the vacuum tree. in this diagram the DV is known as the Throttle Bypass Valve.


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      • pilgrimPete
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        • Dec 2013
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        • Country: United Kingdom

        #4
        ok thank you so all in all should there be a tiny tube coming off the dv?....

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        • newsh
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          • Aug 2003
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          #5
          Yes, as it shows in the diagram I posted above

          What sort of DV have you bought from germany then? Dump or Diverter?

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          • pilgrimPete
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            • Dec 2013
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            #6
            i got me one o these

            http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dump-Valve...item5d4838e4e5

            thanks for your time

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            • UrS4boy
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              • Feb 2006
              • 11859
              • Country: Canada

              #7
              BPV info as it relates to UrS Motronics

              Originally posted by pilgrimPete
              i got me one o these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dump-Valve...item5d4838e4e5 thanks for your time
              Really don't think that is what you need. Try reading this:

              The Audi Enthusiast website. Forums for all Audis including A4, S4, A5, S5, A6, S6, allroad, A8, S8, TT, R8, Q5, Q7, 4000, 100, 200, v6, v8, vintage, local forums
              RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
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              • newsh
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                • Aug 2003
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                #8
                Dave he wants it to go "sqwoosh"

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                • UrS4boy
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                  • Feb 2006
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by newsh
                  Dave he wants it to go "sqwoosh"
                  RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
                  94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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                  • pilgrimPete
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                    • Dec 2013
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                    #10
                    ha ha

                    not swoosh you guys come on !!!!

                    .......it gotta go psssst

                    cheesy?.....I don't care im a kid !!

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                    • WidowmakerS2
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                      • Oct 2007
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                      #11
                      I don't believe the reference was to the cheese part

                      But then again, I've ran mine without any valve for some time. Just depends what part of your engine you don't like. I guess running a BOV is better than nothing at all, and running a diverter valve with an open filter to make a sound has a tendency to make intake air too hot.

                      As many times before, ze german engineers have come up with a solution that takes care of everything.

                      Now running Forge diverter and RS2 airbox, just a subtle little 'pst', but I know everything is allright
                      If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried.

                      -CQ 3b "S2".

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                      • UrS4boy
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                        • Feb 2006
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by WidowmakerS2
                        I don't believe the reference was to the cheese part
                        Actually that one was perfect. Cheesy *AND* Ricey all in one.

                        And I am not talking about the Rice-a-roni.
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                        • Rusty
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                          • Jun 2004
                          • 18953
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #13
                          That DV is not what you want. The car will run like crap every time this thing dumps all your metered air... I've tried a few and fully atmospheric was a waste of time.

                          If you absolutely have to have lots of noise then either run a freer airbox / filter or get something like the Turbosmart, Forge or GFB hybrid recirculating type.

                          I run a Forge 007 recirculating DV and because the airbox resembles Swiss cheese, it sounds plenty loud enough.

                          Same money you've just spent and actually worth the time to fit:-

                          Cheers'en, AndyC
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                          • andyg plym
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                            • Nov 2006
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                            #14
                            Pete saw you drive past the other day, if you want me to have a look just ask I love boost leaks lol

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                            • newsh
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                              • Aug 2003
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                              #15
                              Actually that's a good point, if your DV actuator hose has gone missing (they tend to fray and rot away with age) then you'll certainly have a boost leak and your car will not be running right anyway. You really want to replace all those small vac hoses with new. Take Andy up on his offer!

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