Bosch 044 Fake identification/pictures/info

[andy10v]

It looks like the left hand pump has a helicoil thread in the inlet, and the right hand pump is threaded alloy?

The crimp looks different, material on the top, and the size of the 4 circles on the top.

[sailaz]

I can repeat myself third time: one pump has number 205-03 and another one 111-30, so logically thinking something has to be different

[andy10v]

Ok, if we can get genuine "old" bosch 044 cheap that is great, I would just be wary as it seems to have the same helicoil as the ones that flowed less?

Well, we couldn't measure all the fuel pissing out of the end cap, but at 70 psi a real 044 flows about 390 lb/hr, this knock-off flows 260 lb/hr. Around 65 psi, fuel started leaking between the end cap and casing. We quit testing it at 70 because it was spraying fuel everywhere.

Free flow (0 psi), the knock off flowed 420 lb/hr, a real 044 flows about 490 lb/hr.

Are you going to test one or try it in a car?

[zefsider]

I read ages ago that some on here ( pRJ amongst others ) recommended a HRC-255 pump, quieter than 044 and/or Walbro, and 2 year warranty....seen these for around £60 , anyone used them ? Straight swap/in tank ? Big on the Subaru scene apparently ( yeah I know... )

[AndyP]

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Hi there just read up on suspected fake fuel pumps similar to this one is this guaranteed to be of genuine Bosch manufacture, if it turns out to be anything else I would be requesting a refund just to help out the genuine items are made in Czech Republic, M18 inlet, helicoil intake if this item has made in Germany stamped in it please don't send it just save the postage and refund item many thanks for your help

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New message from: nadinemc-2013 (629Purple Star)

Hi there, thanks for your message, yes they are and made in Czech, unfortunately I'm now out of stock, so I ll refund you, not a problem, sorry for the inconvenience. All the best

Yeh righty O watch out for this seller fellas clearly a bit slippery

Back up for sale again!!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bosch-0580...item1c4d4adb1d

[AndyP]

Ok, if we can get genuine "old" bosch 044 cheap that is great, I would just be wary as it seems to have the same helicoil as the ones that flowed less?



Are you going to test one or try it in a car?

Where did that quote about testing them come from Andy?

[andy10v]

Where did that quote about testing them come from Andy?

scmil95eg on hondatech

[andy10v]

Back up for sale again!!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bosch-0580...item1c4d4adb1d

From the ebay add

Capable of providing 300 LPH free flow and 200 LPH at 5 bar (or 72.5 psi) for up to 685 BHP (calculated at 12V, 3 bar (43.5 psi) base fuel pressure, 2 bar (29 psi) boost pressure, 1:1 fuel pressure regulator ratio)

Graph from somewhere on here





Does anybody know what a stock pump flows?

What do you need for RS2 spec?

[david1980]

Avoid brands hatch performance on ebay lots of cases of pumps being returned fake

[Rikki Kitto]

So here we are again just got a pump of fleabay steel hellicoil intact all numbers and stamps look good +-- signs in the right place found out that it should flow 500ml in 15seconds so gonna test it before I fit it

[Rikki Kitto]

OK so after trying a really dangerous idea out, flow test with petrol in an open container and battery etcI wont embarrass myself with the clip, I found out that the pump flows 2.1 litres in 30 seconds but standalone no pressure to fight against.

I know now that this doesn't really tell me anything other than it's pumping fast, so looks like I'll have to fit it and find out anyhoo

Good news is I was nowhere near the S2 when I tried this out so if it exploded into a fireball the car would of been fine

[Gazmitchell]

Just to resurrect this thread , are there any bona fida outlets that are known to sell proper 044 's as I'm after one now... Don't wanna genuine replica l!!

[speeding-g60]

in USA this is where i get mine....

http://looseboltsmotorsports.com/ind...roducts.search

[AndyP]

I always get my Bosch stuff from Andrew Page

https://retail.andrewpage.com/

[vonbeck]

this one seems genuine perhaps
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-GENUIN...-/150523915757