RS2 versus S2 inlet manifold

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  • Rikki Kitto
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Feb 2010
    • 6276
    • Country: England

    #1

    RS2 versus S2 inlet manifold

    Just wondered if any engine geeks had views on the technical advantages of RS2 over S2 inlet manifolds.

    I know the RS2 one looks pretty cool what with the inscription but is there a big advantage over the standard S2 unit, to be honest at around 10 times the price it should be quite a spectacular improvement really.
  • andy10v
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Mar 2009
    • 5996
    • Country: Scotland

    #2
    Its the same as an ABY with Porsche on it, no performance benefit.
    Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

    Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
    Sold ABY-stock

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    • Rikki Kitto
      S2Forum Zealot
      • Feb 2010
      • 6276
      • Country: England

      #3
      😳wow, really glad I bought a SS inscription plate for £30 and bonded it to my IM now
      Attached Files

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      • SE_30
        S2Forum Extremist
        • Apr 2010
        • 1114
        • Home: England Current: Israel

        #4
        A few have commented that the RS2 inlet flow tract is not as good as the ABY,zero or even negative performance gains. The 3b is meant to be as good as if not better than all of them for flow.

        Have a search, there are a few threads with some good info covering your question.
        Stuart
        B2 90 quattro with boost

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        • andy10v
          S2Forum Zealot
          • Mar 2009
          • 5996
          • Country: Scotland

          #5
          RS2 and ABY are larger volume

          Originally posted by Pisobiker
          3B intake manifold's internal volume is ~3.3 liters and RS2 one is ~4.2 liters (both including the 5 inlet ducts).
          And 3B flows more on a static flow bench?

          RS2



          3B



          ..as on a Superflow bench with 28 inches. All within 4% max/min, within 1.1% of average or so, this is untouched right off the CNC. Just for reference 8) I'm getting a 3B flowed right now for comparison 8)
          Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

          Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
          Sold ABY-stock

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          • Quattronaut
            S2Forum Addict
            • May 2013
            • 273
            • Country: Germany

            #6
            IMHO that flow bench measurements are thrown-out money. Air flow inside the mani is affected by so much factors, and each of them varies from motor to motor, that nobody can say, what the result in real car using is. Change cams- another flow. Change throttlebody- another flow. Change air piping- guess: another flow. RPM band is 7000rpm variable. No flowbench can simulate that.

            From the manis on the pics, I would take the Porsche one- because there is less difference between the cylinders, and IMHO that is more important than that little overall flow numbers. But this also is "trying", not more. Maybe it works little better in some way- but I wouldn´t be surprised if not.

            And overall: Up to 500hp it is just the heck...Every common IM (Wagner, AAN, 3b, ABY, ADU) will do the job good enough.

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            • Classix
              S2Forum Addict
              • Jan 2010
              • 202
              • Home: Lithuania Current: United Kingdom

              #7
              so, if i want to fit on my ABY head rs2 inlet manifold it will fixed like original?

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              • Christophski
                S2Forum Possessed
                • Mar 2009
                • 3632
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                Does the 3b inlet manifold bolt on and work on an ABY without any modifications to it, or anything around it or that bolts to it? I have a n ice shiny 3b one sat around that would look great on my ABY.

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                • rxl
                  S2Forum Extremist
                  • May 2012
                  • 1913
                  • Country: Germany

                  #9
                  3b intake manifold will not fit as the piping is different and the manifold has other dimensions

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                  • quattrostyle
                    S2Forum Zealot
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 6229
                    • Country: Netherlands

                    #10
                    Indeed, won't fit around the back of the valve cover.

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                    • sailaz
                      S2Forum Maniac
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 647
                      • Country: United Nations

                      #11
                      but in general all manifolds can be interchanged if piping or something else is not an issue, I mean the fixing points on the head are the same on all 20V heads - RR, NM, 7A, 3B, AAN, ABY, ADU

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                      • newsh
                        S2Forum Obsessed
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 16226
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Classix
                        so, if i want to fit on my ABY head rs2 inlet manifold it will fixed like original?
                        Yes, it fits exactly the same.

                        S2 Coupe 3B Project


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                        • rxl
                          S2Forum Extremist
                          • May 2012
                          • 1913
                          • Country: Germany

                          #13
                          the cam cover is different.

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                          • GazzaG60
                            S2Forum Freak
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 4133
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #14
                            porsche had to do something to make the rs2 different. think they were running out of ideas as the s2 was such a good starter for 10.

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