#DieselGate

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  • bartolomeus
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Jan 2009
    • 1475
    • Country: Romania

    #1

    #DieselGate

    What is your opinion on VAG's douchebag strategy?
    Will they bankrupt because of this crazy way of doing business?
    For me it's a total shock
  • Quattronaut
    S2Forum Addict
    • May 2013
    • 273
    • Country: Germany

    #2
    To keep it simple: IMHO everyone does it. Now, VW was caught. Maybe they did it a more silly way then others. They will survive it, people will forget in a time. After nuclear age and then computer or communication age it's now the scandal age. Every day a new one. It's kinda boring.

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    • Error404
      Super Moderator
      • Mar 2007
      • 19789
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #3
      I am sure it will transpire that all mfrs are at it in one way or another. By default Audi, Skoda and Seat surely must do some fiddling to share many of the same engine platforms and have not raised any suspicion by having wildly different figures.
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      • Rikki Kitto
        S2Forum Zealot
        • Feb 2010
        • 6276
        • Country: England

        #4
        They're all at it for sure, glad I've got an old Audi and a friendly mot man

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        • rj scotty
          S2Forum Fiend
          • May 2006
          • 2195
          • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

          #5
          **** the tree huggers
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          "For what you spent on that you could have brought a new car"
          BUT I DON'T WANT A NEW CAR!

          1995 S2 Avant, Volcano Black
          1982 VW Golf Mk1, primer yellow, will be finished one day, maybe.
          2003 VW T4 long nose X pack, (has become project)

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          • saltinot
            S2Forum Extremist
            • May 2004
            • 1946

            #6
            Like Alex says. I'm willing to wager a bet that all manufacturers are doing this on both petrol and diesel cars. I 'm also waiting to see what happens at the common thread between all of them......Bosch. Surely they had to have a hand in it.

            Me too Rikki, my dag dag Golf TDI (ALH) just rolled over a smokey 363,000 miles. I'm going to drive it 'til the wheels fall off.

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            • Rocco
              S2Forum Zealot
              • Aug 2007
              • 6393
              • Country: Spain

              #7
              That's why is better buying a Mitsubishi Evo

              And forget about emissions and fuel economy
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              • 90quattrocoupe
                S2Forum Maniac
                • Nov 2003
                • 771
                • Country: United States

                #8
                I like that they did it. I live in California, and this state sucks.

                Like take for instance, water based house paint. Because they want to cut down on VOCs(how much does water based paint have to begin with), it now take 2 to 3 times has much paint to cover even white based primer. What they don't do is compare the VOCs to the increase amount of emissions from having to produce 2 to 3 times as much paint. The paint companies sure earn more money.

                For the last few years, they have been doing diesel smog checks. Bogus. They check the OBDII, look at the engine(as if the smog guys could tell what they are looking at), rev the motor and look for black smoke. But the smog guys sure make more money.

                Greg W.
                They can have my car when they pry my cold dead fingers from the steering wheel.

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                • Quattronaut
                  S2Forum Addict
                  • May 2013
                  • 273
                  • Country: Germany

                  #9
                  Originally posted by saltinot
                  I 'm also waiting to see what happens at the common thread between all of them......Bosch. Surely they had to have a hand on it:
                  Yes, they did, they admitted it- they developed the software with the algorithm for the test recognition- but they developed it for internal procedures and engineering, officially. And they warned VW that using this in the cars is illegal. It is not Smith and Wesson as a manufacturer that kills people, it is the guy who shoots.

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                  • bartolomeus
                    S2Forum Extremist
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 1475
                    • Country: Romania

                    #10
                    Originally posted by saltinot
                    Like Alex says. I'm willing to wager a bet that all manufacturers are doing this on both petrol and diesel cars. I 'm also waiting to see what happens at the common thread between all of them......Bosch. Surely they had to have a hand in it.

                    Me too Rikki, my dag dag Golf TDI (ALH) just rolled over a smokey 363,000 miles. I'm going to drive it 'til the wheels fall off.
                    I've heard they tested the BMW diesel cars and they were OK.

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                    • newsh
                      S2Forum Obsessed
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 16226
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #11
                      It's like politics, some innocent people will be fired, someone will apologise and everyone will forget.

                      Or is that tooo cynical??

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                      • bartolomeus
                        S2Forum Extremist
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 1475
                        • Country: Romania

                        #12


                        Let's buy palladium!

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                        • sidrick
                          S2Forum Extremist
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 1342
                          • Country: Scotland

                          #13
                          I'll go against the grain and say that not everyone does it, IMO. Many manufacturers have come out and said in no uncertain terms that they don't, and bearing in mind the scrutiny this situation is going to get, no company would say that unless it was true.

                          Make no mistake, what the VAG has done is seriously, seriously wrong.

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                          • rj scotty
                            S2Forum Fiend
                            • May 2006
                            • 2195
                            • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

                            #14
                            Ill still buy their cars, when there at least 10 or 15 years old
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                            "For what you spent on that you could have brought a new car"
                            BUT I DON'T WANT A NEW CAR!

                            1995 S2 Avant, Volcano Black
                            1982 VW Golf Mk1, primer yellow, will be finished one day, maybe.
                            2003 VW T4 long nose X pack, (has become project)

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                            • rj scotty
                              S2Forum Fiend
                              • May 2006
                              • 2195
                              • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

                              #15
                              I think some credit is due here. As I understand it there was software in the ECU that could work out when the vehicle was under test and reduce its emissions accordingly, presumably at the expense of power. I respect that sort of lateral thinking.
                              sigpic
                              "For what you spent on that you could have brought a new car"
                              BUT I DON'T WANT A NEW CAR!

                              1995 S2 Avant, Volcano Black
                              1982 VW Golf Mk1, primer yellow, will be finished one day, maybe.
                              2003 VW T4 long nose X pack, (has become project)

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