S2 vs. Honda Integra Type R

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  • Keeper of The Kitten
    S2Forum Fiend
    • Dec 2003
    • 2317
    • Country: England

    #16
    So a >300bhp <1500kg S2 would do it! More bhp and a bit of diet for your Audi would be the key, and anyone with a front drive car will be red-faced as a result of the 4wd Audi giving him the slip...

    Should be fairly straightforward!

    __MDC__
    Martin Cutting

    aka Keeper of "The Teutonic Kitten"

    It's not better than sex, but it runs it a close second.

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    • Ski
      S2Forum Fiend
      • Jan 2004
      • 2591
      • Home: Poland Current: United Kingdom

      #17
      Originally posted by Bowlerwell
      Who can't ask what question Ski?
      What's under whose bonnet?

      Whom are you addressing with this comment, and to whom are you making referance?
      Sorry..

      I was refering to the first post.
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      • niall1
        S2Forum Enthusiast
        • Dec 2004
        • 145
        • Country: Ireland

        #18
        Originally posted by Keeper of The Kitten
        So a >300bhp <1500kg S2 would do it! More bhp and a bit of diet for your Audi would be the key, and anyone with a front drive car will be red-faced as a result of the 4wd Audi giving him the slip...

        Should be fairly straightforward!

        __MDC__

        Should be straightforward but not sure that the power/weight correlation is linear (ie might need 350bhp for1500 to = 200 for 1000) also the lighter weight compensates for 4WD in the cornering speeds as the lateral forces of weight x velocity will come into play ?? But I could be wrong!
        1984 Pearlwhite ur quattro (3B 20v power - 034EFI/RS2 modded)

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        • mcandmar
          S2Forum Zealot
          • Apr 2004
          • 5118
          • Country: Ireland

          #19
          @niall1: Another irish member i see,
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          • niall1
            S2Forum Enthusiast
            • Dec 2004
            • 145
            • Country: Ireland

            #20
            Hi there are you on VAGE.ie?
            1984 Pearlwhite ur quattro (3B 20v power - 034EFI/RS2 modded)

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            • europeanme
              S2Forum Possessed
              • Oct 2005
              • 3817
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #21

              I got passed by a 306 gti6!!!....but mine is loosing boost big time!!!.....and I was asleep!!!...well sort of!!......

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              • Chris5044
                S2Forum Extremist
                • Feb 2005
                • 1663
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #22
                haha i eat type r 's for breakfast!!!! thats my opinion.... (280bhp chipped)

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                • Keeper of The Kitten
                  S2Forum Fiend
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 2317
                  • Country: England

                  #23
                  Originally posted by niall1
                  Should be straightforward but not sure that the power/weight correlation is linear (ie might need 350bhp for1500 to = 200 for 1000) also the lighter weight compensates for 4WD in the cornering speeds as the lateral forces of weight x velocity will come into play ?? But I could be wrong!
                  Hi Niall!

                  Power to weight ratio is what it says it is, the power figure is a measure of the amount of work that can be done in a given time (eg lifting a weight vertically). The relationship is linear. Stuff that isn't linear includes drag, that goes up by the square of speed (eg twice the speed = four times the drag, and three times the speed = nine times the drag), and I would suggest that the coast down effect is another matter (frictional losses through the drivetrain - a particular bugbear of four wheel drive - but the trade off is superior traction).

                  Having said all that, I think a 300bhp S2 really wouldn't have too much trouble against a 200bhp Integra - and a more powerful S2 would take the Honda apart.

                  __MDC__
                  Martin Cutting

                  aka Keeper of "The Teutonic Kitten"

                  It's not better than sex, but it runs it a close second.

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                  • Keeper of The Kitten
                    S2Forum Fiend
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 2317
                    • Country: England

                    #24
                    As for going around corners, race the Honda on a wet day!!!! Yes, less weight is a big advantage on the twisty bits - the rally Audis were best at pointing and squirting (so to speak) - the cornering prowess is more a case of traction for better exit speeds.

                    __MDC__
                    Martin Cutting

                    aka Keeper of "The Teutonic Kitten"

                    It's not better than sex, but it runs it a close second.

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                    • Chris5044
                      S2Forum Extremist
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 1663
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #25
                      haha u know it makes sense!!!

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                      • mcandmar
                        S2Forum Zealot
                        • Apr 2004
                        • 5118
                        • Country: Ireland

                        #26
                        I am now Cant believe there was an Irish forum all along i didn’t know about

                        Cheers,

                        Mark.

                        Originally posted by niall1
                        Hi there are you on VAGE.ie?
                        91CQ20v - Gone to a new home
                        93UR-S4 - The Magic Carpet
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                        • Coxy
                          S2Forum Extremist
                          • Jun 2005
                          • 1090
                          • Country: England

                          #27
                          Can't comment on an S2, but I can tell you for sure that an Oettinger Chipped RS2 will leave the Type Rfor dust (once you've got past the increased turbo lag!)

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                          • stevieyid
                            S2Forum Fiend
                            • Apr 2005
                            • 2251
                            • Country: England

                            #28
                            There are a few integra type r's around my way now. Ill have a go with one when the oppotunity arises and let u no how it goes. The only Honda i have encounted is an NSX. They are quick but i still had the upper hand on him.
                            3'' Longlife Exhaust, Koni Adjustables, H&R Springs, Full RS2 Setup with Mr Nugents RS2 Chips (just need the RS2 Airbox)

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                            • Keeper of The Kitten
                              S2Forum Fiend
                              • Dec 2003
                              • 2317
                              • Country: England

                              #29
                              Well if you can beat the NSX, I would have thought the Integra would be candy from a baby by comparison?!! NSX is supposed to be the Honda supercar?!!

                              __MDC__
                              Martin Cutting

                              aka Keeper of "The Teutonic Kitten"

                              It's not better than sex, but it runs it a close second.

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                              • Keeper of The Kitten
                                S2Forum Fiend
                                • Dec 2003
                                • 2317
                                • Country: England

                                #30
                                (The all aluminium mid engined rear wheel drive NSX, compared to the mostly steel front engined front wheel drive Integra)

                                __MDC__
                                Martin Cutting

                                aka Keeper of "The Teutonic Kitten"

                                It's not better than sex, but it runs it a close second.

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