S6 after an S2?

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  • John.
    S2Forum Fiend
    • May 2012
    • 2615
    • Country: Scotland

    #31
    Originally posted by Error404
    ......people asking help, advice etc etc. We do this in our spare time for the good of the community, it's not a paid for service so cut some slack
    It works both ways though, sometimes a moderator might ask a question, it's answered by an ordinary member to which there's no acknowledgement or thanks?
    In short, we all do this in our spare time and for the good of the community?
    Just saying.

    Love and peace to all !!

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    • mcandmar
      S2Forum Zealot
      • Apr 2004
      • 5118
      • Country: Ireland

      #32
      Wow did this thread get offtopic. To answer Andys original question, if you find an S2 feels like a pig on turn in vs a Z you will hate the C4 chassis as its a barge. Add to that the super low geared steering with no feel its anything but a sporting drive. And the weight will blunt straight line performance if that is a priority to you.
      91CQ20v - Gone to a new home
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      • Vorsprung durch Technik
        S2Forum Freak
        • Jun 2007
        • 4754
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #33
        Originally posted by mcandmar
        To answer Andys original question, if you find an S2 feels like a pig on turn in vs a Z you will hate the C4 chassis as its a barge. Add to that the super low geared steering with no feel its anything but a sporting drive. And the weight will blunt straight line performance if that is a priority to you.

        Given what you have said above i'm not sure what S6 or S6's you have driven in the past??....... Not all S6 cars are equal! There are at least 4 general spring settings. Standard which gives a highish ride height and another standard spring which gives the allroad look as seen here. For example; The new owner of this car paid £5k for it 5 years ago so must have wanted it and knew something most ignored back then.





        This saloon (Craigs old car) is on standard springing. I have driven this car now with new Bilies on and it feels good,just not as crisp as mine.







        My Saloon with the factory Sport springs and the stiffest of the 2 the factory offered.






        My Avant with factory Sport springs and the stiffest of the 2 the factory offered.







        Regarding the Stiffist springing i remember James (spink),nice fellow, saying he didn't like them as they were too hard for his liking. Personally i like them for the lovely direct feel i get, turn in feels crisp and flat ,remember the huge grip you get from the standard 96/97 year runout models having the 17" wheels with Porsche fitment 255 /40 x 17 tyres.

        These tyres make a huge handling difference how a S6 feels and must be why Audi / Gmbh used them. Sadly a lot of S6 owners,who fancied a cheap £1,500 runabout, a few years back weren't necessarily going to spend top dollar and doing the car justice by using the 255 / 40 x 17 tyres at huge expense. Thats folly as these cars need and deserve the best tyres. Anyway values have gone up hugely since then and these cars are now mostly in the right hands where people have deeper pockets to lavish on them like the S2 boys have done for years.

        If someone doesn't like the stiffer spring, then the way to help that situation is to dial out any harshness by replacing all the bushes for a as new compliant ride with either standard Audi or go the poly rout for better control as i'm doing for even better handling with no added NVH.Win win in my book.



        I have driven 4 x S2 avant 1 of them an ex BBC camera mans car, 8 years ago, which was impeccably maintained by a big southern well known specialist,can't think of the name right now and yes i would concede to you that the S2 steering rack is way better/ faster than the S6's. That's something i would be prepared to in a group buy get one made for the S6. Ultimately the S6 is a heavier car than the S2 Avants but not hugely so, S2 Avants weigh 1560kg, a standard version of the S6 saloon with no goodies at all isn't that much heavier! Plus the saloon with the massive rear bulkhead over the S6 Avant is the better handler,and completely free of annoying squeaks by virtue of it's stiffer shell!

        Last edited by Vorsprung durch Technik; 22 September 2016, 19:23.
        96 URS6 plus speck saloon
        96 URS6 plus speck estate
        94 2.6 80 Avant
        99 2.8 final edition Cabriolet

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        • Greg_S
          Administrator
          • Jul 2003
          • 12431
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #34
          I have tweaked the settings for the front page now so it should all be sorted on that front
          Greg

          S2Forum.com Administrator & Webmaster

          '93 Coupe with a few tweeks

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          • Vorsprung durch Technik
            S2Forum Freak
            • Jun 2007
            • 4754
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #35
            Originally posted by Greg_S
            I have tweaked the settings for the front page now so it should all be sorted on that front



            Thanks Greg,i'm assuming you mean the S6 part and not also the Cabriolet part?
            96 URS6 plus speck saloon
            96 URS6 plus speck estate
            94 2.6 80 Avant
            99 2.8 final edition Cabriolet

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            • John.
              S2Forum Fiend
              • May 2012
              • 2615
              • Country: Scotland

              #36
              Originally posted by Vorsprung durch Technik



              Thanks Greg,i'm assuming you mean the S6 part and not also the Cabriolet part?
              FFS you'll get yourself into deep trouble!
              There is in fact nothing wrong with leaving the cabriolets in the styling and beauty section.
              Your attitude is noted.

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              • Vorsprung durch Technik
                S2Forum Freak
                • Jun 2007
                • 4754
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #37
                Originally posted by John.
                FFS you'll get yourself into deep trouble!
                There is in fact nothing wrong with leaving the cabriolets in the styling and beauty section.
                Your attitude is noted.
                Ahh yes the English Language,which can be a dangerous weapon in the wrong hands my good Scottish friend. As long as one's factual and honest with the best of intentions in mind the good old English language can be a force for good used wisely.

                96 URS6 plus speck saloon
                96 URS6 plus speck estate
                94 2.6 80 Avant
                99 2.8 final edition Cabriolet

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                • 220bhp
                  S2Forum Fiend
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 2578
                  • Home: United Kingdom

                  #38
                  I have both.
                  The s2 is more nimble. but the s6 has been a great car. Far more reliable than the s2 has been.
                  Much easier to work on with alot more space under the bonnet and in the car.
                  I beleive that the greater airflow under the bonnet is a contributing factor to the better reliability.
                  Every thing under the bonnet of the s2 suffers from heat much more than on the s6
                  I have had both cars for a long time now to compare.

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                  • Vorsprung durch Technik
                    S2Forum Freak
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 4754
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #39
                    Originally posted by 220bhp
                    I have had both cars for a long time now to compare.

                    I'm interested to know what suspension set up your using on the S6,Springs,shocks bushes? Avant or saloon?

                    96 URS6 plus speck saloon
                    96 URS6 plus speck estate
                    94 2.6 80 Avant
                    99 2.8 final edition Cabriolet

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                    • mackenzie50
                      S2Forum Maniac
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 740
                      • Country: Scotland

                      #40
                      Originally posted by 220bhp
                      I have both.
                      I beleive that the greater airflow under the bonnet is a contributing factor to the better reliability.
                      Every thing under the bonnet of the s2 suffers from heat much more than on the s6
                      I have had both cars for a long time now to compare.
                      That's an interesting observation.

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