Coupe Rear Tie Rod bushes

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  • Graham
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Jul 2003
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    #61
    Would you like any cash up front? I know tooling/prototyping is a bit expensive. I remember the first set of samco's which required a fair bit to cover tooling.
    Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler.--:Albert Einstein

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    • Error404
      Super Moderator
      • Mar 2007
      • 19789
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #62
      Originally posted by Graham
      Would you like any cash up front? I know tooling/prototyping is a bit expensive. I remember the first set of samco's which required a fair bit to cover tooling.

      I'm planning to make some nylon bushes up myself when i can get access to a lathe to test the design etc then see how it works before committing to manufacturing.... i'm not making anything out of this so its a big risk putting my own cash into a new unproven product, or expecting people to pay upfront for something unproven also
      Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
      Indigo ABY coupé
      Imola B6 S4 Avant

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      • anton
        S2Forum Maniac
        • Jan 2005
        • 802
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #63
        we got any sort of time frame for this one yet mate??

        Ant
        91' Coupe quattro 20v - project
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        • Error404
          Super Moderator
          • Mar 2007
          • 19789
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #64
          nope! it'll cost £600 to get a batch of 20 sets made so i'm not in any rush to stump it up lol
          as i said above, want to make sure the idea works for a start
          Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
          Indigo ABY coupé
          Imola B6 S4 Avant

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          • anton
            S2Forum Maniac
            • Jan 2005
            • 802
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #65
            if it helps at all i would be happy to pay for mine up front with some extra for your R&D if you like, i know £600 is a big blow to one persons bank lol

            Ant
            91' Coupe quattro 20v - project
            KW V2s and other goodies
            now gone
            03' BMW 330CI - Sold
            08' A5 Coupe 3.0l tdi quattro - Sold
            57' BMW 525d M Sport Touring

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            • bambridge
              S2Forum Maniac
              • May 2009
              • 609
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #66
              Originally posted by Error404
              Right, i've knocked together a basic roughly scale drawing of the rod and and possible bush design on MS Publisher
              comments / ideas / abuse welcome

              hopefully this is enough for these mfrs to let me know a pallpark cost and possible order numbers etc


              I'm going abroad for 2 week tomorrow so will hopefully pick this up on my return and move things forward.

              cheers
              Alex


              EDIT: Can anyone confirm if this bush would potenmtially work for the Type85 or URQ?

              pm sent

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              • Holla
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                • May 2007
                • 57
                • Home: Norway

                #67
                any updates on these bushes?

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                • Error404
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                  • Mar 2007
                  • 19789
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #68
                  Kev (Bambridge) is working on a prototype as we speak
                  Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
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                  • bambridge
                    S2Forum Maniac
                    • May 2009
                    • 609
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #69
                    Originally posted by Error404
                    Kev (Bambridge) is working on a prototype as we speak
                    Will be posting them back to you today, done 3 variations for you to have a look at Alex?

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                    • Error404
                      Super Moderator
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 19789
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #70
                      cool - sounds good Kev, i'll look out for them

                      I need to remember to send you that front tie rod to look at
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                      Indigo ABY coupé
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                      • Holla
                        S2Forum Fanatic
                        • May 2007
                        • 57
                        • Home: Norway

                        #71
                        any idea when they are going to be finished and what the final price will be? would be nice to change these bushes as well, when I'm changing the rest
                        Last edited by Holla; 10 August 2009, 19:38.

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                        • bambridge
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                          • May 2009
                          • 609
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #72
                          Originally posted by Holla
                          any idea when they are going to be finished and what the final price will be? would be nice to change these bushes as well, men I'm changing the rest
                          My apologies, these have taken me far to long to get done!

                          Alex(error404) will hopefully be testing them soon, and i wil let him know the cost of a set.

                          Best Regards

                          Bambridge

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                          • Error404
                            Super Moderator
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 19789
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #73
                            Finally got a chance to get in the garage after smashing my ankle up and being a bit immobile

                            Kev had sent me a couple set of Acetal / Delrin bushes to test following the design a couple of pages back, and including some grooves in the bore of the tophats to reduce the contact area and to retain lubricant. I've test fitted them today. The fitment into the rod end is very good, and an easy install. Kev has used acetal I think becasue of the cost of casting polyurethane and difficulty machining it (is that right Kev?). These Acetal bushes appear very similar in hardness to the black Powerfex used in their wishbone bushes, which is 95 shore A IIRC

                            I did a back to back compared against stock rubber bushes - I can say that these Acetal bushes will be a BIG improvement. Fitted up to the subframe, I could get about 35mm of flex out of the stock bush measured at the end of the tie rod and being forced forwards and backwards by hand. With the acetal bushes fitted this was reduced to about 5mm of flex

                            I won't have a chance to road test these for a few weeks yet unfortunately, but at this stage as i have said to Kev, I don't think there is any further work needed and they appear to be perfect for purpose.

                            Thanks Kev

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                            Last edited by Error404; 31 August 2009, 22:00.
                            Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
                            Indigo ABY coupé
                            Imola B6 S4 Avant

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                            • bambridge
                              S2Forum Maniac
                              • May 2009
                              • 609
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #74
                              Alex seems very happy with the bushes, so i have worked out a price for the group buy. If theres still interest for 20plus sets i could supply them @ £25-00 a set + postage.
                              Please pm if interested. or add name below

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                              • irishs2
                                S2Forum Fiend
                                • Apr 2009
                                • 2455
                                • Country: Ireland

                                #75
                                Count me in.
                                Eric

                                95 S2 Avant under rebuild.

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