S2 Restoration Options.

[newsh]

[Twenny Benson]

that is definately now a coupé

I thought it might give you all a chuckle! Even when I look at the pic's I laugh

All 7A/3B,s have that rear hatch=)

Yes thats what DJH said, I've just never seen it before I'm sure you'll agree it is pretty cool, I had to have it!

Right I've been drilling for hours now, almost got the panels off one side already until I found these little beauties under the seam sealer!





Brazing! Awesome. Now that is going to be a nightmare to seperate, I don't have a oxy-fuel torch at home which would make it really easy. I'm going to have to try TIG de-brazing! Its brazed in three places so this going to be fun.

[Twenny Benson]

Lame update but it makes me feel like I'm progressing.

The brazed areas proved to be a real ballache, TIG didn't work or at least not for me so I cut round them with a dremel, looking at the way Audi have put the rear quarters on these coupes means removing / freeing up alot of panles first if you replace the entire quarter, hmmmm gonna have to think about how to proceed on the S2 shell. That said I have now almost removed everything I need from the twins and I'm busy chopping it up to the pleasure of the neighbours. The rotesserie has also arrived but its still in the box till the donor's gone, if im honest I haven't a clue how to get it mounted so thats gonna be a day of fun or catastrophe

Also received my new toy....



Good ol' British engineering, should get the job done nicely.

So I'm hoping to have the little piggie on the spit by the weekend then the real work starts

[newsh]

Need to borrow an oxy-acet torch or just go really careful with the grinder..

[Twenny Benson]

Oxy-acet would have made the job easy and that's what I would have used, I might try and get my hands on one when I start on the S2 shell, in the end I removed the panels off the donor with a dremel very carefully and managed to do a reasonably tidy job. The scary bit comes next, making a start on the shell!

[Twenny Benson]

Another lame update.......

I had a boozy weekend so progress was difficult, I have almost finished removing all the panels from the off side of the donor. I had to get it done because 1, I want it off the lawn and 2, those pikey scrap merchants are circling like vultures! They've already helped themselves to this lot plus the rear quarter and windscreen upper frame!



So bye bye to all those panels, I really needed certain sections of that lot. Anyway thats that so It was time to get busy removing what I have left before they robbed that as well! Luckily the side I have left is the worst side of my S2, looks like I will have to tin bash the repair sections for the stolen bits now

I decided to remove this quarter panel with the outer arch piece attached, just seems like a less destructive way. Your always gonna have to tackle the brazed bits though which is a PITA, I used my cheapo dremel to good effect.





Rot free well almost but nothing that can't be easily fixed. The sill is also off and I just have to section out the floor pan and it's all done.

Some more random pics





Interestingly these inner pieces are different in my ABY coupe, not vastly but they are different. I will take some pictures when the time comes to compare.

If anyone reading has replaced a complete quarter panel before I'd be very interested to hear how you did it, I can't see a quarter panel being replaced without stripping off the rear apron first!?!

Now then, now then. I have a set of B5 RS4 front calipers knocking about somewhere, I already know I would need a bracket making up to fit the S2 carrier but do you know of any reason why they wouldn't work? I don't have a disc to fit up to see what I'm dealing with and one of you S2 geekers is bound to already know

[Twenny Benson]

Update.

Finally I've finished removing all the panels & sections from the donor shell and I was gladly back to work on the S2. I built up the rotesserie and test fitted it, turns out I need some spacer plates for the rear bumper bar.







So I've ordered some material to make the spacer plates so I can adjust it without it hitting the body. In the mean time I've stripped the sunroof, exhaust, rear subframe and diff, rear quarter glass and made a start at removing the driver side rear quarter panel, lots of filler, rust & MIG weld.









More rustyness





Crazy thing is this is alot worse than the coupe shell I cut up Anyway, I have the week off work and I'm hoping the weather will hold up so I can crack on with it!

[Error404]

****! you have your work cut out there dude (no pun intended!)

[mcandmar]

Interestingly these inner pieces are different in my ABY coupe, not vastly but they are different. I will take some pictures when the time comes to compare.

Please do take some side by side pics, i stumbled across this before but would love to have a clearer look at the difference.

http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=425595&postcount=229

Great thread by the way, body work is something i know little about, always eager to learn

[geryS2]

nice restoration projects mate !!

keep on the good job and thanks for sharing that with us !

good entertainment here

[Twenny Benson]

****! you have your work cut out there dude (no pun intended!)

It is certainly not happy, its seems to get worse the more I remove. Its alot of work but I've come this far I may as well see what I can do with it.

Please do take some side by side pics, i stumbled across this before but would love to have a clearer look at the difference.

http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=425595&postcount=229

Great thread by the way, body work is something i know little about, always eager to learn

No prob's I will make sure I capture the ABY vs. CQ differences, I have found lots more that I will make sure I get pic's of. Bodywork is something new to me as well, this is my introduction I can weld, just never had to weld a car before. Lets hope she turns out well.

nice restoration projects mate !!

keep on the good job and thanks for sharing that with us !

good entertainment here

Thanks mate, I will try and keep all the progress posted

[Error404]

No prob's I will make sure I capture the ABY vs. CQ differences, I have found lots more that I will make sure I get pic's of. Bodywork is something new to me as well, this is my introduction I can weld, just never had to weld a car before. Lets hope she turns out well.

There's three I know about at the rear end - the quarter panels as Mark posted the link to plus there are the vertical members tying the rear towers to the inner C-pillar area. Both ABY and 3B have an additional cross-tunnel brace too.
Be good to have a list

so remind us what the aim of the project is mate?
road / track or somewhere in-between?

ez
Alex

[Twenny Benson]

Those are the one's I've noticed thus far, plus there a fair few upfront, here's one I haven't heard mentioned, the box section pieces under the front floor pans that tie into the chassis legs are very different, the CQ ones are much larger and extend further down the sides of the floor pans than ABY ones, God only knows why Audi decided to change these!?! I would have thought the CQ would make a stiffer shell. Here are some rough shots of what I'm on about. I will take pics of everything I notice and post them all up together at some point.

CQ


ABY



The aim of all this graft is to hopefully create a track orientated road legal coupe, she will never be a show pony but hopefully awesome in a rough track car kind of way. My plan for now is to get the shell solid again, stitch her up and seal it all up and get it painted. Then its just a case how much money do I bolt on to it!

Some more joyful pictures from this afternoons efforts





Along way to go yet!

[andy10v]

Nice progress!

It is interesting to see bits of the shell you don't normally.

[Twenny Benson]

Audi Autopsy! I just hope I eventually find some steel I can weld to lol.