Lightweight Aluminum Crank Pulleys

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  • S2Roo
    S2Forum Enthusiast
    • Feb 2004
    • 191
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #46
    If someone purchases this, how do they tighten their crank bolt to the correct torque, if they can no longer lock the pully off?

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    • AnLe
      S2Forum Addict
      • Dec 2003
      • 291
      • Country: Finland

      #47
      Come on, you cant be this un-inventive.

      I use screwdriver or similar on starter wheel, later made special tool from startter wheel part, welded bolt on to it and it locks it wery firm.

      I ask again, my question was un aswered in all this non related **** in this topic
      is CDN=CAD ? How much is postage to Finland?

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      • S2Roo
        S2Forum Enthusiast
        • Feb 2004
        • 191
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #48
        This is not a viable solution. If the this bolt is tightened to the correct torque, the flywheel teeth will snap (do a search on the forum). You can't put the car in gear, the workshop manual states this will strip the gearbox. It has also been suggested that the crank has twisted before. Audi put that locking tab there for a reason.

        So forgetting the balancing question, as you could potentially get it balanced your self, how do you lock the crank???

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        • AnLe
          S2Forum Addict
          • Dec 2003
          • 291
          • Country: Finland

          #49
          my teeth are in good condition, used many times, but only to open.

          Using gearbox is fine, use straigh or higest gear and help it with brakes, handbrake also, that is bull **** you cant use gearbox to 450nm tightening, there is people that drives daily with those torgue numbers and they use it to move 1.5 ton car.

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          • S2Roo
            S2Forum Enthusiast
            • Feb 2004
            • 191
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #50
            Quote from 3B manual for crankshaft bolt torque:

            "Crankshaft harmonic damper = 450Nm or 200Nm plus 180 degrees
            Do NOT use transmission to lock engine - proper tool required"

            Obviously Audi are not only fluent in German, but also Bull****.

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            • zlobo
              S2Forum Maniac
              • Jan 2004
              • 967
              • Country: Sweden

              #51
              there is a guy in my who used alu pully on his s2 and that caused engine brake down, and you also need the locking tool or else you wil destroy the lower camwheel it will cracalate.
              Last edited by zlobo; 2 December 2005, 14:48.
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              • WabTheKing
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                • May 2004
                • 2567
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #52
                there is a gay in my

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                • zlobo
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                  • Jan 2004
                  • 967
                  • Country: Sweden

                  #53
                  Originally posted by WabTheKing


                  hehe
                  ABT C5 Lord Of The Rings
                  2004 1/4 Mile ET 12.00 191Km/h @1,5Bar
                  2009 1/4 Mile ET 11.92 213Km/h @ 1,5Bar 437WHp
                  2010 1/4 Mile ET 11.45 110Km/h @ 1,5Bar 437Whp
                  kostic.nu

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                  • aelred
                    S2Forum Maniac
                    • Jan 2005
                    • 761
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #54
                    Audi rally cars used an alloy front pulley, no locking tab on it, i have one.
                    The way to tighten it is by making a locking tool for the flywheel by speading the load over a number of teeth and hei presto job done. If you look at other manufactures that is the way thet do it and Sealy sell flywheel locking tool for various manufacturers but not for the Audi engine.
                    Alloy pulleys are nothing new.
                    I use the quote above from AnLe "Be inventive" and if you cannot be leave it alone and get an expert and not someone that thinks he is.
                    Aelred

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                    • RSCoupe
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                      • Dec 2003
                      • 120
                      • Country: United States

                      #55
                      Originally posted by aelred
                      Audi rally cars used an alloy front pulley, no locking tab on it, i have one.
                      The way to tighten it is by making a locking tool for the flywheel by speading the load over a number of teeth and hei presto job done. If you look at other manufactures that is the way thet do it and Sealy sell flywheel locking tool for various manufacturers but not for the Audi engine.
                      Sure, Porsche has a tool for this very thing. The only prolem is, you have to have the engine out to do it. Not good for someone just replacing the pulley, with engine still in car. Or is there a tool that inserts into the inspection/sensor hole?
                      Mark Siggelkow

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                      • YumyJager
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                        • Jan 2004
                        • 58
                        • Country: United States

                        #56
                        Originally posted by aelred
                        Audi rally cars used an alloy front pulley, no locking tab on it, i have one.
                        Yes, you are correct. Here is a shot of my friend's original A2 rallye car's crank pulley, not the best pic, you you get the idea.

                        1990 Coupe quattro 20v, no T
                        1992 S4 20v, very much so T

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                        • jirkipi
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                          • Nov 2004
                          • 29
                          • Home: Czech Republic Current: Canada

                          #57
                          You are so right!
                          Nice to see someone with creativity. There is always more than one way to get things done.

                          And yes, that is in Canadian dollars. Shipping would be around $40CAD, but I would give you a deal on the shipping costs!




                          Originally posted by AnLe
                          my teeth are in good condition, used many times, but only to open.

                          Using gearbox is fine, use straigh or higest gear and help it with brakes, handbrake also, that is bull **** you cant use gearbox to 450nm tightening, there is people that drives daily with those torgue numbers and they use it to move 1.5 ton car.

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                          • jirkipi
                            S2Forum Buff
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 29
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                            #58
                            AAAAAAAAmen. Finally somebody with some sense!



                            Originally posted by aelred
                            Audi rally cars used an alloy front pulley, no locking tab on it, i have one.
                            The way to tighten it is by making a locking tool for the flywheel by speading the load over a number of teeth and hei presto job done. If you look at other manufactures that is the way thet do it and Sealy sell flywheel locking tool for various manufacturers but not for the Audi engine.
                            Alloy pulleys are nothing new.
                            I use the quote above from AnLe "Be inventive" and if you cannot be leave it alone and get an expert and not someone that thinks he is.

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                            • jirkipi
                              S2Forum Buff
                              • Nov 2004
                              • 29
                              • Home: Czech Republic Current: Canada

                              #59
                              Sweet!
                              Don't let 'Steve' see that picture....he'll harp on your friend for having an aluminum crank pulley and.... oh my god....an aluminum cam gear LOL


                              Originally posted by YumyJager
                              Yes, you are correct. Here is a shot of my friend's original A2 rallye car's crank pulley, not the best pic, you you get the idea.

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                              • 4WheelDrifter
                                S2Forum Zealot
                                • Oct 2004
                                • 5773
                                • Country: Devon

                                #60
                                I like your pulley, but I think you should lay off 'Steve', until you understand what he has posted.
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