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  • quattrostyle
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Oct 2006
    • 6229
    • Country: Netherlands

    #16
    Originally posted by Puglife
    goddamn it, i spend a few hours away from forum and miss these!!!!
    same here, let me know if anyone has another set at that price

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    • caddy
      S2Forum Hobbyist
      • Aug 2007
      • 16
      • Country: France

      #17
      how much power and torque that rod can support ?

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      • NoNonsense
        Forum Sponsor
        • Apr 2004
        • 673
        • Home: Italy Current: United States

        #18
        Originally posted by caddy
        how much power and torque that rod can support ?

        Scat claims up to 200hp and 150ft-lb per rod. So that's 1000hp and 750ft-lbs in a 5-cylinder engine. I have yet to see a Scat rod failure, and I've sold hundreds of sets. I personally have run them reliably to 600hp in a 1.8T. Needing a larger turbo to test further.
        Joe "NoNonsense"
        axis motorsport
        joe@axismotorsport.com

        "At the end of the game, the king and the pawn go back in the same box."

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        • Mixu
          S2Forum Buff
          • Dec 2004
          • 32
          • Country: Finland

          #19
          And I hope that my rods aren't the first ones to fail. I hope to test them at 6xx hp and 8xx Nm. But you newer know will those number be available fo me
          Audi RS2 modded, modding more

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          • NoNonsense
            Forum Sponsor
            • Apr 2004
            • 673
            • Home: Italy Current: United States

            #20
            You'll be just fine, mate. Like I said, I've sold a bunch of these and I put them in cars here all the time without hesitation. In fact, when I first asked Scat how much power they'd hold, the gentleman laughed at me and said "Try to break them." So worry not and turn on the boost! ;-)

            Joe "NoNonsense"
            axis motorsport
            joe@axismotorsport.com

            "At the end of the game, the king and the pawn go back in the same box."

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            • terrybullwon
              S2Forum Zealot
              • Mar 2006
              • 8782
              • Country: England

              #21
              Originally posted by NoNonsense
              You'll be just fine, mate. Like I said, I've sold a bunch of these and I put them in cars here all the time without hesitation. In fact, when I first asked Scat how much power they'd hold, the gentleman laughed at me and said "Try to break them." So worry not and turn on the boost! ;-)

              I was very happy with the ones i got from you Joe, best bit was laughing in the face of the customs charge
              Chef

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              • Jamo
                Retired OG Mod
                • Mar 2004
                • 21750
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #22
                Originally posted by NoNonsense
                You'll be just fine, mate. Like I said, I've sold a bunch of these and I put them in cars here all the time without hesitation. In fact, when I first asked Scat how much power they'd hold, the gentleman laughed at me and said "Try to break them." So worry not and turn on the boost! ;-)

                Yeh I bought a set from NoNonsense but they are now in the hands of Flat on my back as I now have Pauter rods as I need longer rods.

                Custom charges? Whats that then

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                • NoNonsense
                  Forum Sponsor
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 673
                  • Home: Italy Current: United States

                  #23
                  Originally posted by terrybullwon
                  I was very happy with the ones i got from you Joe, best bit was laughing in the face of the customs charge
                  Originally posted by Jamo
                  Yeh I bought a set from NoNonsense but they are now in the hands of Flat on my back as I now have Pauter rods as I need longer rods.

                  Custom charges? Whats that then

                  I do what I can to make everybody happy!
                  Joe "NoNonsense"
                  axis motorsport
                  joe@axismotorsport.com

                  "At the end of the game, the king and the pawn go back in the same box."

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                  • quattrostyle
                    S2Forum Zealot
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 6229
                    • Country: Netherlands

                    #24
                    make me happy with a good price for a set of SCAT's then

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                    • Jamo
                      Retired OG Mod
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 21750
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #25
                      Originally posted by NoNonsense
                      I do what I can to make everybody happy!
                      Hopefully you can post me happy! :mischeif:

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                      • HPmuirt
                        S2Forum April Fool
                        • Apr 2005
                        • 3014
                        • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

                        #26
                        I hope James will excuse this blatant change of topic, but I gather the sale of rods is complete, so here goes....

                        1. If money were no object, which rods would people fit? Titanium?

                        2. If price was not the most important issue and assuming all the rods under consideration could handle the planned torque, what would be the deciding factor? Weight?

                        Cheers n

                        Si
                        95 ABY S2 Coupe - Ragusa Green
                        Subtle mods here and there


                        2011 A5 3.0 TDi - Lava Grey
                        With every option available (except a towball)

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                        • terrybullwon
                          S2Forum Zealot
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 8782
                          • Country: England

                          #27
                          Originally posted by HPmuirt
                          I hope James will excuse this blatant change of topic, but I gather the sale of rods is complete, so here goes....

                          1. If money were no object, which rods would people fit? Titanium?

                          2. If price was not the most important issue and assuming all the rods under consideration could handle the planned torque, what would be the deciding factor? Weight?

                          Cheers n

                          Si
                          This thread went off topic last week

                          Titanium rods would be lovely but theres a limit to just how far one can go, other options also like larger wrist pin (most stressed part IMHO) , riffle drilling.

                          at the end of the day there are a few good brands out there and you pay and take your pick
                          Chef

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                          • HPmuirt
                            S2Forum April Fool
                            • Apr 2005
                            • 3014
                            • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

                            #28
                            Originally posted by terrybullwon
                            This thread went off topic last week

                            Titanium rods would be lovely but theres a limit to just how far one can go, other options also like larger wrist pin (most stressed part IMHO) , riffle drilling.

                            at the end of the day there are a few good brands out there and you pay and take your pick
                            OK, so now for the killer question....

                            I have money to spend and am less concerned with cost. I will probably stick to the RS2 turbo for now, but I want max torque rather than BHP as I want mid-range grunt not top end speed. Should I go titanium? If not which are the best rods for me?

                            Cheers n

                            Si
                            95 ABY S2 Coupe - Ragusa Green
                            Subtle mods here and there


                            2011 A5 3.0 TDi - Lava Grey
                            With every option available (except a towball)

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                            • NoNonsense
                              Forum Sponsor
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 673
                              • Home: Italy Current: United States

                              #29
                              Titanium rods certainly are lovely and they do a fantabulous job at reducing rotational mass within the engine, however....
                              I think they are better suited for naturally aspirated engines where there isn't so much force put on them. One must remember that Titanium flexes more than steel, and when you have the combustion forces on the piston from a turbo engine, the Titanium will flex.
                              I think for our application, a forged steel h-beam or i-beam rod from a reputable manufacturer is the best way to go. Pauters may be the best and perhaps the lightest steel rods, but the tradeoff is cost. And virtually 95% of us will never even come close to utilizing the full benefits of Pauter rods. That's where less expensive, yet strong/proven/effective rods come into play.

                              That's my thoughts on the matter.
                              Joe "NoNonsense"
                              axis motorsport
                              joe@axismotorsport.com

                              "At the end of the game, the king and the pawn go back in the same box."

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                              • HPmuirt
                                S2Forum April Fool
                                • Apr 2005
                                • 3014
                                • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

                                #30
                                Originally posted by NoNonsense
                                That's my thoughts on the matter.
                                Thanks for the great answer

                                OK, so removing titanium from the equation then, how much lighter are the Pauters over the next best and how much more would they cost?

                                I am not interested in pushing stronger than stock rods to the limit, but I strongly believe in not only having the best, but also in making sure that the limits are never reached.

                                I know nowt about any of these makes so have no idea what I should be looking to buy....but I will be looking for rods soon and so looking for advice, hence more questions and less searching.

                                Cheers n

                                Si

                                P.S. I know it is not necessarily relevant to IL5 turbos, but I have this thing about lightening the engine components as long as it does not decrease strength from tuning old Triumph normally aspirated engines, where everything was agricultural that we used to shorten the piston skirts and lighten the rods. (We also had to balance the combustion chambers as there could be a fair difference between them )
                                95 ABY S2 Coupe - Ragusa Green
                                Subtle mods here and there


                                2011 A5 3.0 TDi - Lava Grey
                                With every option available (except a towball)

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