Volvo 850 S2++

[Jamo]

I want to do this the other way around, fit the volvo t5 engine into an audi.
which if any audi box fits the volvo petrol engine or is it adaptor plate time.
im not worried about mountings and wiring as much as fitting to the box, will be in an old coupe quattro so i need to use that box.
I may buy a damaged engine from a breakers to trial fit if i cant get any help here.

Permission to ban him for crazy talk?

[caterpillar]

volvo+audi= true??

~ delta@ are you sure about that.... some volvoparts fit ford bits:
http://www.4bangerturbo.com/volvodohc.htm ....................

[~Delta]

~ delta@ are you sure about that.... some volvoparts fit ford bits:
http://www.4bangerturbo.com/volvodohc.htm ....................

Aye, very true, Ford DOES own Volvo. But the only 5 cylinder "Volvo" engine that IS actually a true Audi unit is the 2,461cc IL5 TDI fitted to the Volvo 850 TDI and V70 TDI.

From memory, the V70 TDI used a VW Transporter box.

The Volvo / Ford IL5 petrol unit utilizes an Audi IL5 crankshaft, but the Volvo cylinder head will not bolt to an Audi engine, and the cylinder spacing (looking at both head gaskets) is not the same. Oil and waterways are also completely different.

[Volvo 850 S2++]

Aye, very true, Ford DOES own Volvo. But the only 5 cylinder "Volvo" engine that IS actually a true Audi unit is the 2,461cc IL5 TDI fitted to the Volvo 850 TDI and V70 TDI.

From memory, the V70 TDI used a VW Transporter box.

The Volvo / Ford IL5 petrol unit utilizes an Audi IL5 crankshaft, but the Volvo cylinder head will not bolt to an Audi engine, and the cylinder spacing (looking at both head gaskets) is not the same. Oil and waterways are also completely different.

I have never seen a Transporter gearbox, but I doubt that the V70 TDI uses it. Actually the TDI-gearbox looks very much like the petrol equvivalent exept from the bolt pattern:

The TDI-gearbox to the left

I also find it somewhat hard to believe that the Audi crank fits in the Volvo engine, or that it is the same crank. Although I have never tried...


Hans-Petter Aamodt

[porkkis]

The Volvo / Ford IL5 petrol unit utilizes an Audi IL5 crankshaft, but the Volvo cylinder head will not bolt to an Audi engine, and the cylinder spacing (looking at both head gaskets) is not the same. Oil and waterways are also completely different.

Awesome stament! Congrats!
How in the hell can an engine with different cylinder spacing use another's crank?!
Whoa

All alloy volvo engine in an Audi isn't that bad idea. Think about it.

[~Delta]

Awesome stament! Congrats!
How in the hell can an engine with different cylinder spacing use another's crank?!
Whoa

All alloy volvo engine in an Audi isn't that bad idea. Think about it.

Sorry, I should say "Audi derived crank". I doubt it would fit straight into an Audi block though.

Also, I'm not sure what bore size the Volvo uses.

[caterpillar]

volvo does have nearly the same bore and stroke like audi: audi use 81,00 and 86,4, and volvo use 81,3 and 86,?? or like that.... i have to check this out.

[Volvo 850 S2++]

Audi 2,2 20V turbo:
Bore 81, stroke 86,4

Audi 2,5 TDI
Bore 81, stroke 95,5

Volvo 5234 2,3 turbo
Bore 81, stroke 90

Volvo 5254 2,5 N/A
Bore 83, stroke 90

Volvo 5204 2,0 turbo
Bore 81, stroke 77


Hans-Petter Aamodt

[caterpillar]

the old 2,0 audi DOES have 77,4 stroke and 81mm bore too!!!!!