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  • Im just wondering regarding the copyright of Bentley publishers.

    They don't sell the book anymore, They don't have plans of publishing it in E-book format.

    How "borderline illegal" is it to distribute this in an ebook format?

    Should I ask them from an anonomyous mail regarding scanning the book and publish as a ebook?
    Not that its traceable to me (except from these posts) anyway.. But would maybe nice to ask them?

    We are a huge community that can benefit from this book. Im amazed how detailed everything is in this book.
    Guides on everything , Torque on every single screw and guide how to fit this and in what order. Its quite amazing.

    I paid quite the amount for the book, been looking for 9 months for a okay copy. Been searching through every site I could find and
    found a good example on a site with pictures of it. So bought it


    I've already ask some scanners in Norway that does other kind of papers but they work by the hour which I said wasnt viable for me.
    They had no problem scanning it , if its for personal use it doesnt matter. But they wanted 80 eur+- an hour for it and the guy said "probably 15 hours".
    Which is something im not gonna pay for it. I've seen scanners you can buy for 400-500 eur which takes a certain amount of pages , and 15 hours is way overkill for this project..

    Suggestions anyone?

    https://www.s2forum.com/forum/member...-3b-1991-coupe

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    • Its not borderline I'm afraid, it is plain illegal, and even worse to be selling it, or appearing to sell it

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      • Which is ridicilous in my opinion since they're not publishing it anymore and second hand is the only way to get it (if you find it).
        Not going to sell it, would give it away for free for helping the community.
        https://www.s2forum.com/forum/member...-3b-1991-coupe

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        • So I've sent BentleyPublishers a long mail regarding the issue and asking if they can publish more copies of the book or make it as an e-book format.
          Told them there are plenty of forums out there searching for this book and would like a copy.
          I guess they will not, but I asked if there was possible to find a solution regarding copyright etc.

          We'll see, probably gonna get a typical corporate answer from support desk that doesn't give a f.. any way.
          https://www.s2forum.com/forum/member...-3b-1991-coupe

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          • If you want to make a buisness of it and sell it on a webpage , webshop then it will problems.
            But dont do like that.
            I send you a email , i pay, you send me the PDF. Problem solved.

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            • Sharing is caring, not gonna get paid for it. Not trying to make a profit. would be good to be in 0 though If I decide to scan.
              Il lsee what the Bentley people say first
              https://www.s2forum.com/forum/member...-3b-1991-coupe

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              • Hey Lars,

                i've been looking to get one myself, but the prices are absolutely madness. I bought the cheaper Audi 80 manual and have been using that. Also if you search on some of the car forums, there are a lot of scanned documents of the important sections of the book (also a lot of scanned pages on https://www.s2-audi.co.uk/)

                Whenever you feel like selling, just look at the picture i've attached (price as of this morning)

                Screenshot 2021-05-27 at 12.29.06.png

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                • People are crazy, I bought it for 280 euros before shipping/tax. Which is ridicilous price in my opinion.
                  https://www.s2forum.com/forum/member...-3b-1991-coupe

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                  • Dear Lars,

                    First, thank you for contacting us and for respecting the copyright protections of our repair manuals.

                    Your frustration is understandable regarding access to the Bentley Publishers Audi 80/90 Coupe Quattro Repair Manual: 88-92.
                    We do not currently have this manual in stock, and I realize it is very hard to come by in the used marketplace.
                    However, this manual is still under copyright to Bentley Publishers and we emphatically do NOT grant permission to any other entity to reproduce the manual in full or in part, in any medium, including print, electronic, or other digital formats.

                    I will share your letter of concern and interest with my colleagues. Some kind of e-book or online version of this manual would make sense. We will look into the possibility of making that happen.

                    Please feel free to follow-up via our website / support center if you have not heard back from us on this matter by the end of the year.

                    Sincerely,
                    Janet Barnes
                    Bentley Publishers

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                    https://www.s2forum.com/forum/member...-3b-1991-coupe

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                    • They certainly are missing a trick with electronic copies of their publications. You can get the Audi manuals via erWin. I bought their electronic version and printed it out and bound it.
                      91 Modded 3B
                      14 A6 Avant Black Edition

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                      • Originally posted by SteveH View Post
                        They certainly are missing a trick with electronic copies of their publications. You can get the Audi manuals via erWin. I bought their electronic version and printed it out and bound it.
                        Weird, think I boutht an hour pass on erwin or something and didnt find much regarding my car. Downloaded 2-3 pdfs but that was about it.
                        https://www.s2forum.com/forum/member...-3b-1991-coupe

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                        • Well, you could try to find someone with microfiche and have it digitally copied. Then you could tell Bentley to stick it.

                          Greg W.
                          They can have my car when they pry my cold dead fingers from the steering wheel.

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                          • Originally posted by larsaskogstad View Post

                            Weird, think I boutht an hour pass on erwin or something and didnt find much regarding my car. Downloaded 2-3 pdfs but that was about it.
                            Yes, nothing specific for the 3B. The AAN Engine workshop manual is useful if you are doing any engine related rebuilding. I have the 3B wiring schematic and the docs for 3B to ABY conversion along with other docs on the gearbox and linkage. If you want any of them drop me a PM with your e-mail.
                            91 Modded 3B
                            14 A6 Avant Black Edition

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