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  • dm80
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Apr 2005
    • 812
    • Country: Scotland

    #136
    Originally posted by Knight Rider S4
    sorry derek should got back ......next monday good for you?
    Monday will be cool aye cheers. Give me a shout..

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    • dm80
      S2Forum Maniac
      • Apr 2005
      • 812
      • Country: Scotland

      #137
      He he.. no probs. Hey.. this is some project. It'll be character building - both for you and the wife

      Originally posted by fourcircle
      You can have custody of Steve Monday if I can have him Saturday Derek.

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      • Nj
        S2Forum Possessed
        • Jan 2007
        • 3420
        • Home: Scotland Current: Finland

        #138
        haha. Did you ever test the elastic limit of a spring at school? You keep hanging weights on it and taking them off, add more, take them off etc.. until you add them and it goes past the elastic limit and won't go back? well I fear i'm doing something similar with the wife. I think the final weight might be a set of spangly 17 inch rims.
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        1990 CQ20v
        2001 3.0 B6 A4 Avant Quattro Sport

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        • Nj
          S2Forum Possessed
          • Jan 2007
          • 3420
          • Home: Scotland Current: Finland

          #139
          The eagle has landed!! No photos cos it's too dark but the new shell arrived tonight from Sal. Man it's good to see it with the **** end intact. there's a gaping hole at the front but I aim to fill it quite soon (with a little help)

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          1990 CQ20v
          2001 3.0 B6 A4 Avant Quattro Sport

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          • s2driveruk
            Super Moderator
            • Jul 2003
            • 12696
            • Country: England

            #140
            yeah my wife will have a £420 vagparts present arrive monday....well at lest with the help of the credit card i will have 30 days to expalin/justify its arrival before the bill arrives on the mat
            sigpic

            1992 3b S2 Coupe

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            • Nj
              S2Forum Possessed
              • Jan 2007
              • 3420
              • Home: Scotland Current: Finland

              #141
              Originally posted by s2driveruk
              yeah my wife will have a £420 vagparts present arrive monday....well at lest with the help of the credit card i will have 30 days to expalin/justify its arrival before the bill arrives on the mat
              haha. what did you buy mate?
              I have to say with hand on heart that my missus (despite the odd gasket blowing) puts up with my crap a lot. she was even happy for me as I skipped out the door last night to take delivery of the 2nd broken S2. Or happy to see the back of me. one of the two.
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              1990 CQ20v
              2001 3.0 B6 A4 Avant Quattro Sport

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              • Nj
                S2Forum Possessed
                • Jan 2007
                • 3420
                • Home: Scotland Current: Finland

                #142
                big thanks to Rob (Nuvo) for coming round and lending a hand on saturday. Hope i know what your labels (electrical connectors) refer to or you'll be the only one with any idea how to put it together again.
                Popped down this evening and got an hour at it before I was called back home.
                all prop shaft and driveshaft bolts loosened now.
                the beast currently looks like this.....
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                1990 CQ20v
                2001 3.0 B6 A4 Avant Quattro Sport

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                • Nj
                  S2Forum Possessed
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 3420
                  • Home: Scotland Current: Finland

                  #143
                  couple of questions if anyone can help me out...

                  when I remove the prop shaft bolts and centre mount do I expect the prop shaft to drop or do I need to take the diff or gearbox back/forward before this happens?

                  How do I take the driveshafts off the back of the wheels? Do I need to take the CV boots off and get messy in the grease?

                  How much can I leave on the engine when i'm removing it and putting it into the other car? downpipe looks like it will have to come out but I assume I can leave the turbo on?

                  What the hell was I thinking and will I be still at this at xmas, given that I'm trying to be a family man for large parts of my weekend?
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                  1990 CQ20v
                  2001 3.0 B6 A4 Avant Quattro Sport

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                  • 80Quattro
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                    • Sep 2006
                    • 420
                    • Home: United Kingdom Current: New Zealand

                    #144
                    1. The prop can come off as soon as it is unbolted although you will probably find it needs a little persuasion to do so. Be careful not to let it flex more than 25 degrees at the CV joints.

                    2. You only need to undo the hub nut (no need to take the CV boot off). You will probably find you can't remove the drive shaft without removing some of the suspension. Also, I found the drive shafts were very well seized to the diff flange when I removed mine.

                    3. No idea, sorry
                    92 Audi 80 Quattro => RS2 Saloon!
                    98 TVR Cerbera 4.5
                    63 Austin Mini Super Deluxe (turbocharged)
                    69 Austin Mini Cooper
                    71 MGB GT
                    75 Daimler Vanden Plas 4.2L
                    04 Kawasaki GPX250
                    96 Subaru Legacy GT-B

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                    • Acidburn
                      S2Forum Obsessed
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 13459
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #145
                      Originally posted by fourcircle
                      How much can I leave on the engine when i'm removing it and putting it into the other car? downpipe looks like it will have to come out but I assume I can leave the turbo on?

                      What the hell was I thinking and will I be still at this at xmas, given that I'm trying to be a family man for large parts of my weekend?
                      Following on:

                      If you can get access to a hoist and have all the wires disconnected and the front driveshafts taken off,downpipe unbolted from rest of exhaust and gear box unbolted from everything else (apart from engine) I don't see why you can't just chain it up remove the bonnet, un-do the mounts and take it up and out.

                      At this rate your probably be putting most of it back together as you've had good progress. Got any pictures of the new shell?

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                      • Knight Rider S4
                        S2Forum Possessed
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 3541
                        • Country: Scotland

                        #146
                        Originally posted by fourcircle

                        How much can I leave on the engine when i'm removing it and putting it into the other car? downpipe looks like it will have to come out but I assume I can leave the turbo on?

                        If it was me i would be taking turbo off as when you split the engine from gearbox there will be rocking of the engine and the turbo is not hard and a few cracks off the inner wing could end in tears........Take the alternator out of the road as well to give you a bit more room

                        Cheers

                        Steve
                        93 S2 Avant Parting
                        91 URQ RR
                        02 A4 tdi Avant

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                        • sal_s2
                          S2Forum Extremist
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 1287
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #147
                          Engine can go in complete, no need to take anything off if you have a hoist.. It only needs to be lifted up a little and pulled forward.
                          Remove the rear wheels and you'll see the centre bolt in the hub, 24mm I think. That is for the driveshaft. Loosen these before disconnecting brakes etc just in case theyre really tight. Remove the rear suspension legs. Lower the complete rear cradle by undoing the 4 subframe bolts then once its on the floor you can disassemble it if you need to.
                          You could do the same with the front assembly aswell, i.e remove suspension legs, loosen driveshaft bolts, disconnect brake lines, gearshift mechanism, clutch slave pipe, then lower complete engine, gearbox and subframe in one go

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                          • s2driveruk
                            Super Moderator
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 12696
                            • Country: England

                            #148
                            Originally posted by 80Quattro
                            Also, I found the drive shafts were very well seized to the diff flange when I removed mine.
                            hmm, ain't that the truth, just trying to remove my rears from the flanges and they dont seem to want to budge, any tips apart from some tactical treatment with the hammer

                            Cheers
                            David
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                            1992 3b S2 Coupe

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                            • 80Quattro
                              S2Forum Addict
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 420
                              • Home: United Kingdom Current: New Zealand

                              #149
                              Originally posted by s2driveruk
                              hmm, ain't that the truth, just trying to remove my rears from the flanges and they dont seem to want to budge, any tips apart from some tactical treatment with the hammer

                              Cheers
                              David
                              It took me a whole afternoon to get 1 of mine off. The drive shaft simply would not come off the diff, I had everything locked so that it didn't just spin and tried for at least an hour to twist it off with some channel locks but with no luck. In the end I pulled the drive shaft off leaving the outer race of the CV still attached to the diff but I really wouldn't advise this unless there is no other option as they are a nightmare to reassemble. I thought it would come off easily having done that as I could put a couple of bolts in just enough to try and lever it off but still no luck. Eventually with 3 of us trying to get it off (2 twisting it with a bar and me hitting it with a lump hammer) it went. I think possibly beating it with a large hammer is your best option as I had to get all the ball bearings back in the CV after doing it that way which wasn't easy.
                              92 Audi 80 Quattro => RS2 Saloon!
                              98 TVR Cerbera 4.5
                              63 Austin Mini Super Deluxe (turbocharged)
                              69 Austin Mini Cooper
                              71 MGB GT
                              75 Daimler Vanden Plas 4.2L
                              04 Kawasaki GPX250
                              96 Subaru Legacy GT-B

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                              • Hendo
                                S2Forum Buff
                                • Aug 2007
                                • 38
                                • Country: Scotland

                                #150
                                Ooooooo. Just noticed this.

                                If you need a hand spanner ****ing I'll join in. Need to get to grips with the basics if I'm going to own one.
                                Andy

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