600bhp MRC S2

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  • G60Rallye
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Dec 2006
    • 1321
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #61
    I think your right about the sound being out of sync with the footage. You can see the car move on the rollers after the power is let off but the sound keeps going for another 5 or so seconds.

    The power it makes on the turbo is very very high, I haven't seen many people including the evo's making that sort of power on a gt35r on road fuel. What size hotside does it run? 1.06?

    As for the compression I dont know who told you that Jogi but a low compression engine is going to lead to it being a pig off boost. It wont come on boost as early as a higher comp engine. It also wont produce as much low down torque as a higher comp engine. But as can be seen you can wind lots of timing into it to make up for the low comp.

    What sort of head work does the engine have Doug?

    Lastly i think its cracking to see an Audi producing more power than the Evos!

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    • jogi730
      S2Forum Fiend
      • Jun 2004
      • 2335
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #62
      Originally posted by Jamo
      You want as high a CR as possible to generate good low down torque and power. 7 is loooooooooooow
      Sorry for thread hijack, but this is just what I was told.
      It is low for sure. But apparently it allows you to run really aggressive and advanced ignition timings. hence the results I had in my original setup.
      Take a look at my original dyno plot and note that I had close on max torque by 2500rpm and a nice flat line thereafter. Don't ask me how or why, and I know it goes against the logical way of thinking, but it worked.
      Cheers
      Chris
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      • Doug_RS2
        S2Forum Possessed
        • Jul 2003
        • 3847
        • Home: Scotland Current: England

        #63
        1.06 hotside - but this has also been ported and polished

        also has: cees/jeffry tubular exhaust manifold, hks wastegate,wastegate back into DP, 4" downpipe but his goes to 3" under the car. wagner inlet manifold, the big ebay FMIC, arrow rods, custom je pistons, 10 bar bosch rally pump (right on the limit of this pump), 750cc injectors at 4 bar.

        the head has oversized valves and flush in the head with a lot of lift. Solid lifters but i think with the right hydraulic lifters you will get upto 8k and so a lot less hassle than the solid lifters. all ported.
        S2,RS2,S4 WB,RS4,S4 B8,RS6 C5,RS6 C6,R8

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        • Doug_RS2
          S2Forum Possessed
          • Jul 2003
          • 3847
          • Home: Scotland Current: England

          #64
          chris - that is your turbo giving you low down torque - just a good low spool for the car - it is hard to tell from that graph if compression is low.
          S2,RS2,S4 WB,RS4,S4 B8,RS6 C5,RS6 C6,R8

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          • terrybullwon
            S2Forum Zealot
            • Mar 2006
            • 8782
            • Country: England

            #65
            Originally posted by G60Rallye

            The power it makes on the turbo is very very high, I haven't seen many people including the evo's making that sort of power on a gt35r on road fuel. What size hotside does it run? 1.06?
            Hells racing S2 makes the same sort of power on road fuel and a GT35

            Doug the S2 looks great
            Chef

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            • Mark Halligan
              S2Forum Fiend
              • Jul 2003
              • 2001
              • Country: England

              #66
              Originally posted by Doug_RS2
              I was in Marks a few months ago and i think his a lot more drivebale - seems to kick lower down and harder.
              I doubt mine is making anywhere near the power yours is though Doug. Great work fellas!
              Mark - Modded

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              • audiman
                S2Forum Freak
                • Jul 2003
                • 4827
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #67
                get it on the rollers OMH. want some pub figures
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                • K7ERG
                  S2Forum Extremist
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 1711
                  • Country: Scotland

                  #68
                  Great results there Doug. Should it not be the 650bhp+ MRC S2???
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                  • Mark Halligan
                    S2Forum Fiend
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 2001
                    • Country: England

                    #69
                    Originally posted by audiman
                    get it on the rollers OMH. want some pub figures
                    Mapping still needs to be finished as I hadn't competed the exhaust at the time,(still haven't )

                    When I get my finger out and finish that, maybe we could finish the mapping off on a dyno?
                    Mark - Modded

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                    • Doug_RS2
                      S2Forum Possessed
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 3847
                      • Home: Scotland Current: England

                      #70
                      Originally posted by K7ERG
                      Great results there Doug. Should it not be the 650bhp+ MRC S2???

                      i was only going for 600 but hoped for 620+ after we got it running.

                      mark - get he exhaust done and we will give you a shout the next time are doing cars on a dyno. Or if it is not until beginning of next year we can do it on our dyno.
                      S2,RS2,S4 WB,RS4,S4 B8,RS6 C5,RS6 C6,R8

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                      • Jamo
                        Retired OG Mod
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 21750
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #71
                        Did I hear MRC are getting a dyno next year???

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                        • EspenW
                          S2Forum Extremist
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 1534
                          • Country: Norway

                          #72
                          Originally posted by Doug_RS2
                          Or if it is not until beginning of next year we can do it on our dyno.
                          Cool, what kind of dyno are you guys getting? Mustang, Dyno Dynamics, Rototest, Dastek, Bosch, MAHA, Superflow.. not a Dynojet, I'm sure....
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                          • gnutz2
                            S2Forum Maniac
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 928
                            • Country: England

                            #73
                            Originally posted by Doug_RS2
                            36psi down to 30 psi at redline.

                            what does yours run?
                            I run 33psi from spool up all the way to redline about 7600rpm.

                            the difference is i run a .82 hotside and can see boost about 600 rpm sooner depending on the gear, but as audiman said somewhere before, cars like these are supposed to be drove with with your foot on the floor so turbo lag is not apparent between gear changes.
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                            • Doug_RS2
                              S2Forum Possessed
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 3847
                              • Home: Scotland Current: England

                              #74
                              100 to 200 kph in 3rd gear

                              S2,RS2,S4 WB,RS4,S4 B8,RS6 C5,RS6 C6,R8

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                              • A80Avant
                                S2Forum Obsessed
                                • Sep 2005
                                • 10873
                                • Country: Greece

                                #75
                                looks like it is sleeping at the beginning!! but then it all becomes clear....

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