An Engine Simulator is Born - Part 1

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  • prj
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Mar 2010
    • 6308
    • Country: Estonia

    #61
    Looked over all connections and measured them with a tester.
    Everything seems to be correct.

    K-Line also gets pulled high.
    I don't need any resistors between the cable and the K-Line?
    Do I need the L-Line? I don't have it connected.
    It's not temperamental regarding using a single ground for everything, is it?

    I guess I can do this via trial and error, but it'd be easier if you checked your ECU and told me which wires you have connected.
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    • prj
      S2Forum Zealot
      • Mar 2010
      • 6308
      • Country: Estonia

      #62
      The L-line is mandatory indeed.
      That was the only missing part of the puzzle. Got the ECU responding to OBD on my desk now.
      Weeeee.....
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      • S2central.net
        Retired OG Mod
        • Jul 2003
        • 16590
        • Country: Northern Ireland

        #63
        Bit of progress on project ESIM........



        Thats the noise our G4 and G28 signals would make at idle - when hooked up to an audio system - I am emulating them in PC audio software here. Bit more logic required to emulate G40 but that is very easy now I have the G4 pulse sync'd to virtual flywheel teeth.

        The idea behind this bit of fun is to fool the ECU into thinking its attached to a running engine - while sitting on a bench - then its possible to simulate MAF, RPM and such along with other sensor inputs, while emulating in realtime to verify which maps are used when and in various corner / failure cases - because its there.
        Paul Nugent
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        2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
        2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

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        • s2driveruk
          Super Moderator
          • Jul 2003
          • 12696
          • Country: England

          #64
          looks like genius at work
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          1992 3b S2 Coupe

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          • S2central.net
            Retired OG Mod
            • Jul 2003
            • 16590
            • Country: Northern Ireland

            #65
            mmmmm - not quite - but I was cajoled into proving how easy it should really be to progress this better - only took a few minutes with the PC software to create the right shaped waves. Just not enough hours in the day.
            Paul Nugent
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            1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
            2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
            2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

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            • s2driveruk
              Super Moderator
              • Jul 2003
              • 12696
              • Country: England

              #66
              Originally posted by S2central.net
              Just not enough hours in the day.
              living that, I can assure you
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              • S2central.net
                Retired OG Mod
                • Jul 2003
                • 16590
                • Country: Northern Ireland

                #67
                Oh yeah - never a dull moment here matey - looking at 3B boost compensation maps til the wee small hours, writing PHP scripts, pulling hair out - exciting stuff.
                Paul Nugent
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                Administrator http://S2forum.com

                1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

                There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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                • s2driveruk
                  Super Moderator
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 12696
                  • Country: England

                  #68
                  building something new for us 3B owners? where do we form a queue
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                  • S2central.net
                    Retired OG Mod
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 16590
                    • Country: Northern Ireland

                    #69
                    just trying to unravel a few mysteries... and get my head round some assembler routines - if there is enough interest the variable launch control can be added to 3B but I am also looking at ways to add more boost and more safety margin on the 3B setups at the same time. Depends on how much interest there is for that and it would need a development car to do it properly....
                    Paul Nugent
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                    Administrator http://S2forum.com

                    1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                    2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                    2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                    Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

                    There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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                    • edge_devil
                      S2Forum Enthusiast
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 186
                      • Country: England

                      #70
                      G22

                      Hiya Paul,

                      Did you get any further on this? With the cost of RPI boards etc being so cheap you may even be able to build this using a daughter board and a cheap rpi.

                      I'm interested in the G22 work you did as well...with my situation I removed the dashboard so I need to convert G22 output to VSS, but based on what I understand from your post is that VSS is a square wave or nothing, the ecu is not interested in the frequency. Is that a correct understanding or am I wide of the mark?

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                      • S2central.net
                        Retired OG Mod
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 16590
                        • Country: Northern Ireland

                        #71
                        I have a notion to try and move this forward... I just invested in some new electrical testing equipment for the bench and found the box of components that I bought ages back to build the various simulator circuits.

                        What would be really handy is if anyone has any old unwanted or even damaged wiring loom from 3B, AAN, ABY or ADU - as long as the main ECU plug has most wires in tact then it gives me a good baseline to start from. Hold on - we have a wanted section - duhh.
                        Paul Nugent
                        Webmaster http://S2central.net
                        Administrator http://S2forum.com

                        1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                        2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                        2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                        Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

                        There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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                        • edge_devil
                          S2Forum Enthusiast
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 186
                          • Country: England

                          #72
                          I have the remnants of my NF loom, but I don't think this will help. Let me know I can snap a few photos if you want.

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                          • S2central.net
                            Retired OG Mod
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 16590
                            • Country: Northern Ireland

                            #73
                            It needs the 55-pin ECU plug - I dont think NF had that (but sure you mean NG by the way)
                            Paul Nugent
                            Webmaster http://S2central.net
                            Administrator http://S2forum.com

                            1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                            2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                            2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                            Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

                            There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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                            • edge_devil
                              S2Forum Enthusiast
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 186
                              • Country: England

                              #74
                              No NF is the engine I had before the ABY, it's the 1989 Audi 100 engine 2,3 NA.. but I'll look at the plug for you

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                              • _ShurikeN
                                S2Forum Maniac
                                • Mar 2010
                                • 733
                                • Country: Russian Federation

                                #75
                                NF plug is totally different. V8 and TDi 1Z wiring loom plug must fit.

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