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  • newsh
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    • Aug 2003
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    #946
    Yeah, pics are fine for me too, it must be a Dave thing

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    Ur quattro restoration

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    • newsh
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      • Aug 2003
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      #947
      Anyway, looks like they're socketed? Are those white plastic things retaining clips for the chips?

      S2 Coupe 3B Project


      Ur quattro restoration

      S2 Avant

      Boost is the new rock and roll!
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      • hunker7
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        • Mar 2014
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        #948
        Originally posted by newsh
        Anyway, looks like they're socketed? Are those white plastic things retaining clips for the chips?
        Indeed it is
        '93 Audi 100 Avant - R.I.P
        '92 Audi UrS4 Avant - SOLD
        '93 Audi UrS4 Avant
        '15 Audi A7 quattro 3.0 TDI

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        • hunker7
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          • Mar 2014
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          #949
          Can it be the fuel chip that is gone wrong?
          '93 Audi 100 Avant - R.I.P
          '92 Audi UrS4 Avant - SOLD
          '93 Audi UrS4 Avant
          '15 Audi A7 quattro 3.0 TDI

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          • igor136
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            • Jun 2014
            • 363
            • Country: Croatia

            #950
            Prj told me: Your "problem" has nothing to do with the ECU. People are always quick to blame that which they do not understand.
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            • hunker7
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              #951
              Well then how does he explain that fuel consumption is 13mpg with one ecu, and 20mpg with the second one?
              '93 Audi 100 Avant - R.I.P
              '92 Audi UrS4 Avant - SOLD
              '93 Audi UrS4 Avant
              '15 Audi A7 quattro 3.0 TDI

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              • igor136
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                • Jun 2014
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                • Country: Croatia

                #952
                Originally posted by hunker7
                Let me start from the beginning.

                I have/had 2 issues with my red S4;
                • Bad fuel economy (14mpg around town)
                • Not going over 4000rpm in 5th/6th gear


                I thought, that bad fuel economy is down to the fact that it's not running properly.

                NOW!!!

                Yesterday I took ECU out of the grey S4, and put it into my red S4 and went for a test drive, so 3 things I noticed
                • Fuel economy was inproved drastically (18-20mpg)
                • ..but car still won't go past 4000 rpm in 5th/6th
                • and car takes longer to boost, but still boosts to 1.9bar

                That is normal first 100 km, same thing on my car
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                • hunker7
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                  #953
                  Originally posted by igor136
                  That is normal first 100 km, same thing on my car
                  I know. Original ECU returned 13-15mpg
                  '93 Audi 100 Avant - R.I.P
                  '92 Audi UrS4 Avant - SOLD
                  '93 Audi UrS4 Avant
                  '15 Audi A7 quattro 3.0 TDI

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                  • Dift
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                    • Nov 2014
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                    #954
                    Over how many miles did you test your new MPG?

                    Anything less than a half tank I would take with a massive pinch of salt! We are only talking 5 MPG.

                    The error for a 5MPG difference could be driver, weather ECU re-learning (if the motronic does that) etc.

                    Your data sample needs to be at least a tank brim to brim (calculated not from the OBC).

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                    • hunker7
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                      • Mar 2014
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                      #955
                      Originally posted by Dift
                      Over how many miles did you test your new MPG?

                      Anything less than a half tank I would take with a massive pinch of salt! We are only talking 5 MPG.

                      The error for a 5MPG difference could be driver, weather ECU re-learning (if the motronic does that) etc.

                      Your data sample needs to be at least a tank brim to brim (calculated not from the OBC).
                      It wasn't a lot. But on original ECU even driving carefully for many miles it averaged 13-15mpg. I will leave it in for now, and see what happens, but it's definitely an improvement.
                      '93 Audi 100 Avant - R.I.P
                      '92 Audi UrS4 Avant - SOLD
                      '93 Audi UrS4 Avant
                      '15 Audi A7 quattro 3.0 TDI

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                      • igor136
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                        • Jun 2014
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                        #956
                        Can you take maf, lambda from another car?
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                        • hunker7
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                          • Mar 2014
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                          #957
                          Originally posted by igor136
                          Can you take maf, lambda from another car?
                          Have had different MAF on mine, and I already replaced lambda.
                          '93 Audi 100 Avant - R.I.P
                          '92 Audi UrS4 Avant - SOLD
                          '93 Audi UrS4 Avant
                          '15 Audi A7 quattro 3.0 TDI

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                          • UrS4boy
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                            • Feb 2006
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                            #958
                            Originally posted by hunker7
                            BETTER?
                            Yes. Proper photo formatting with no "url", ".html" or "/url", just [img] then for image's url at photobucket and then [/img].

                            Finally I can see that ECU in the photo, was socketted at the factory and than the MAP sensor is the stock AAN 250 kPa (2.5 Bar) sensor.
                            RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
                            94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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                            • UrS4boy
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                              • Feb 2006
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                              #959
                              Originally posted by Dift
                              Your data sample needs to be at least a tank brim to brim (calculated not from the OBC).
                              the OBC is not that accurate, especially after only a few kilometers.
                              RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
                              94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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                              • hunker7
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                                • Mar 2014
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                                #960
                                Originally posted by UrS4boy
                                Yes. Proper photo formatting with no "url", ".html" or "/url", just [img] then for image's url at photobucket and then [/img].

                                Finally I can see that ECU in the photo, was socketted at the factory and than the MAP sensor is the stock AAN 250 kPa (2.5 Bar) sensor.
                                Will change it ftom now

                                So, is it possible that fuel chip is bad? Has that ever happened?
                                '93 Audi 100 Avant - R.I.P
                                '92 Audi UrS4 Avant - SOLD
                                '93 Audi UrS4 Avant
                                '15 Audi A7 quattro 3.0 TDI

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