knock, knock who's going to tune my s2 for me?

[prj]

People seem to get on perfectly well using them over here.

Did you read at all what I wrote?
You need a separate datalogger with it to do any tuning.

Why bother, when SLC DIY or Afreshtiny do data logging as well, for less price than the AEM UEGO?

[Jonnybravo]

Yes I did, it doesn't mean its not any use to people as you were saying.

I have no issues with the SLC, I just personally own a AEM as do many others I know, were all on aftermarket ecu's though with wideband input.

[terrybullwon]

Yes I did, it doesn't mean its not any use to people as you were saying.

I have no issues with the SLC, I just personally own a AEM as do many others I know, were all on aftermarket ecu's though with wideband input.

Yes James Motronics is the fall down there. Were all logging with the ECU but prj is trying to use this as the Motronics does not support tunning like this.

[prj]

Yes I did, it doesn't mean its not any use to people as you were saying.

I have no issues with the SLC, I just personally own a AEM as do many others I know, were all on aftermarket ecu's though with wideband input.

Yes James Motronics is the fall down there. Were all logging with the ECU but prj is trying to use this as the Motronics does not support tunning like this.

And exactly which part of this thread talks about aftermarket ECU's?
AEM UEGO is simply overpriced for what it does. Why would you get it, when you can get a VEMS round for basically the same price and display EGT/Boost as well?

Again, don't take things out of context. This thread talks about tuning the stock ECU, and advice is asked about which WBO2 to get to go with that. AEM UEGO does not fit the picture here.
That's why I advised you to read the thread the first time.

[Jonnybravo]

I said that I use a AEM, I also said speak to Paul if he is going to map it. What you think and what he may want may be 2 different things.

I read the thread perfectly well 1st time round thanks.

I don't deny at all that the SLC would be a useful tuning tool and in this case would appear to be very useful.

[prj]

I said that I use a AEM, I also said speak to Paul if he is going to map it. What you think and what he may want may be 2 different things.

I read the thread perfectly well 1st time round thanks.

I don't deny at all that the SLC would be a useful tuning tool and in this case would appear to be very useful.

Let's leave the SLC aside for a second. It requires soldering skills to put it together and just compare VEMS Round and AEM UEGO.

Vems Round/AEM UEGO
AFR display: yes/yes
Two row display: yes/no
Linear output: yes/yes
Logging: serial/serial
Logging cable included: yes/no
Logging software: yes/no
RPM pickup: yes/no
EGT: yes/no
Boost: yes/no
Boost controller: yes/no
Price: 240 EUR / 200 EUR (both with sensor)

So my question is, why would you buy the AEM UEGO?

And when tuning motronic, even if you had a datalogger, it would take time to wire it all up.
This is not about what I "think", I am merely presenting facts.

[Jonnybravo]

You don't leave things do you.

If I choose to you a AEM I welcome to do so.

Its a bit like nagging at people for using 3 grands worth of Motec ecu when one thats 1/3 price does the same, personal preference.

I don't map engines, I'll leave that to people who know what their doing, I'll monitor things though and thats why I use a AEM.

If I knew it was going to cause such offence to you I'll not bother replying in future

[prj]

Also, I said I'd post a pic of how the SLC looks on my car. A phone pic will have to do:

It's attached simply using double sided tape and can be removed at any time.
The cable could be made less visible, but I was too lazy to take apart the dash just for that.

The USB cable goes in at the back. Not attached in this picture.

The benefit is, that you don't have to get one of those starship enteprise pillars.

[prj]

You don't leave things do you.

If I choose to you a AEM I welcome to do so.

Of course, but this thread is not about you and not about aftermarket ECU's.

Its a bit like nagging at people for using 3 grands worth of Motec ecu when one thats 1/3 price does the same, personal preference.

No, it's saying that an AEM UEGO is fairly useless for mapping motronic, which this thread is about. Which I have said three times now.

I don't map engines, I'll leave that to people who know what their doing, I'll monitor things though and thats why I use a AEM.

For the fourth time, read the thread title :/
If you don't map engines, why are you saying which WBO2 to install for mapping? I map motronic every day...

If I knew it was going to cause such offence to you I'll not bother replying in future

It's not about offence at all. Just try to read and comprehend what I write.

[Sonic]

It's not about offence at all. Just try to read and comprehend what I write.

I think he got that

Play nice

[prj]

I think he got that

Play nice

Fair enough.
@Jonnybravo, sorry if you got offended by what I said.

[Jonnybravo]

No worries.

[macspring]

Howdy,

As has been appreciated, we are all on the same side on this forum, it's just that some people see things diferently, once we all remember that it will still be happy families.

Hope Shane now knows what to use !

I'll get my coats...

[prj]

Looking at the picture I realized, that I should have posted it this way for Shane:

[mcandmar]

That is an interesting bit of kit, but i'm a little confused on these wide band sensors. Can they give a narrowband output to drive the ECU or do you have to fit both O2 sensors into the downpipe?

Also with the EGT sensor, can you thread them into the CO takeoff on the downpipe or did you have to weld another mounting point for it?