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  • BennyBoo
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    • May 2011
    • 67
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #241
    I dont mean to make an enemy...

    I guess you mean my Turbos and Manifolds.. Just an excuse to buy better ones though yeah?

    Why would it need to take into account for gear ratios..?

    to be honest the box I bought for £100 does what I want it to.. Just thought i'd put out there that there is a simpler option..
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    • prj
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      • Mar 2010
      • 6308
      • Country: Estonia

      #242
      Originally posted by BennyBoo
      Why would it need to take into account for gear ratios..?
      So that it rev matches for you, rev drop is different in different gears.
      to be honest the box I bought for £100 does what I want it to.. Just thought i'd put out there that there is a simpler option..
      Simpler option? How is it simpler?

      Here you send away the ECU, get it back with a plug and control cable, mount it, you are done.
      Wotbox installation - let's see, from the user guide:
      You will need:
      • Wire Strippers
      • Soldering Iron or Station
      • Metric Socket Set
      • Sandpaper
      • Heat Shrink (if more than is included
      in the kit is needed)
      • Electrical tape
      • Zip Ties (if more than is included in
      the kit is needed)
      • Razor Blade or Sharp Knife
      • Multimeter or Ohm Meter
      • RTV or Hot Glue (optional)
      Cool.
      Installation instructions include splicing wires in the ECU harness etc...

      Compared to:
      1. Send ECU.
      2. Receive ECU.
      3. Plug in ECU.
      4. Run a wire anywhere you like with the knob, and plug it into the socket on the ECU.

      Please tell me how is it simpler for the end-user???
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      • BennyBoo
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        • May 2011
        • 67
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #243
        Originally posted by prj
        So that it rev matches for you.
        I didn't realise that's what you'd be doing..

        Originally posted by prj
        Simpler option? How is it simpler?

        Here you send away the ECU, get it back with a plug and control cable, mount it, you are done.
        Wotbox installation - let's see, from the user guide:


        Cool.
        Installation instructions include splicing wires in the ECU harness etc...

        Compared to:
        1. Send ECU.
        2. Receive ECU.
        3. Plug in ECU.
        4. Run a wire anywhere you like with the knob, and plug it into the socket on the ECU.

        Please tell me how is it simpler for the end-user???
        Took me 30mins to install..

        Look, Like I said I didn't want an enemy, You can't really say that the insturctions for installation are anything to go by, You could give out intructions on how to do it and it would be deemed hard and complicated to do..

        Your local garage could install it for you, would that make it simpler?
        There's no buttons to press with a WOTBOX and it's only working when you need it to..

        I'm not trying to say that all of your hard work is wasted, I was always told that Motronic for my B5 could not be adapted for launch control anyway, so I bought the WOTBOX.
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        • prj
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          • Mar 2010
          • 6308
          • Country: Estonia

          #244
          Originally posted by BennyBoo
          Took me 30mins to install..

          Look, Like I said I didn't want an enemy, You can't really say that the insturctions for installation are anything to go by, You could give out intructions on how to do it and it would be deemed hard and complicated to do..

          Your local garage could install it for you, would that make it simpler?
          There's no buttons to press with a WOTBOX and it's only working when you need it to..
          No look, you said this:
          Originally posted by BennyBoo
          Just thought i'd put out there that there is a simpler option..
          You stated that the wotbox is simpler.
          So how exactly is it simpler? I showed you that this is about ten times simpler to install and can be done by anyone, and does not require ANY soldering or special tools of any kind.

          I'm not trying to say that all of your hard work is wasted, I was always told that Motronic for my B5 could not be adapted for launch control anyway, so I bought the WOTBOX.
          ME7 does have built-in launch control. It's not very good though. Plenty of videos online about it.

          Anyway...
          We come back to the fact that for a 2.2T owner this solution is:
          1) Cheaper
          2) A lot easier *simpler* to install
          3) Just as good, and in case of flat-foot shifting it will be better.

          So what is your point?
          You know, if I put an Autronic ECU or VEMS on my car, I also have all this built in. And everyone knows this.
          Why do you come to this thread advertising a more expensive solution that is harder to install?
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          • BennyBoo
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            • May 2011
            • 67
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #245
            Originally posted by prj
            No look, you said this:

            You stated that the wotbox is simpler.
            So how exactly is it simpler? I showed you that this is about ten times simpler to install and can be done by anyone, and does not require ANY soldering or special tools of any kind.
            Simpler in operation.

            Originally posted by prj
            Why do you come to this thread advertising a more expensive solution that is harder to install?
            I didn't advertise anything, just said this is what I did instead of reprograming ME7.
            And it works.
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            • prj
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              • Mar 2010
              • 6308
              • Country: Estonia

              #246
              Originally posted by BennyBoo
              Simpler in operation.
              Simpler in operation? How is it simpler in operation?
              If you don't want to install the knob, you will have a fixed limit.
              The knob is only there to adjust for differences on the road, you don't need to adjust it every time. Again, if you would have read the thread, you'd know this...
              I didn't advertise anything, just said this is what I did instead of reprograming ME7.
              And it works.
              What does this forum and thread have to do with ME7? Or B5's?

              Basically, you are wrong.
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              • BennyBoo
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                • May 2011
                • 67
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #247
                Originally posted by prj
                Simpler in operation? How is it simpler in operation?
                If you don't want to install the knob, you will have a fixed limit.
                The knob is only there to adjust for differences on the road, you don't need to adjust it every time. Again, if you would have read the thread, you'd know this...

                What does this forum and thread have to do with ME7? Or B5's?

                Basically, you are wrong.
                Aww, where did my Bye go
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                • willg54
                  S2Forum Fiend
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 2055
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #248
                  seriously....YAWWWWWWWWWWWWWNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

                  People have their own opinions...accept them! No need to argue them all!
                  1996 Audi S2 - 295bhp and 326lb/ft - Complete Rebuild Project

                  1994 Audi 80 - 2.0 8v (slow but reliable!)

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                  • prj
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                    • Mar 2010
                    • 6308
                    • Country: Estonia

                    #249
                    This was purely facts, and I do not appreciate someone taking a dump on my hard work in my thread, while being blatantly wrong.

                    If you want to discuss launch control using piggybacks or aftermarket ECU's, go make a thread and let it rip.
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                    • willg54
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                      • Jun 2009
                      • 2055
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #250
                      I'm really enjoying the development here (would like it myself one day ) and i agree it is the better solution IMHO, just a shame when it gets into arguments. Dont think he meant it to take a dump on your work...
                      1996 Audi S2 - 295bhp and 326lb/ft - Complete Rebuild Project

                      1994 Audi 80 - 2.0 8v (slow but reliable!)

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                      • Costash
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                        • Mar 2009
                        • 878
                        • Home: Romania Current: United Kingdom

                        #251
                        I am definately go for LC made by Prj, but before this to came alive I've been thinking to go for Wotbox from states.Wotbox it is more preferable for some people because of the back fires and such ,which I can't deny some times I like .I think it is better for you in a financial way to add a second type of LC with retard ignition and sell them with owner risk.We are so many and diferent ideas but not take it so hard.

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                        • jorge s2
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                          • Feb 2009
                          • 226
                          • Home: Portugal Current: Spain

                          #252
                          i have an lc made by prj and i have no words to relate it , each car one history so i can say : 1 million thanks to prj and im very , very , very , very happy. cheers.
                          audi s2 aby red 1993 powreded by prj

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                          • HuwSy
                            S2Forum Enthusiast
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 181
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #253
                            Nowhere. launch control is bad...

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                            • prj
                              S2Forum Zealot
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 6308
                              • Country: Estonia

                              #254
                              Huh, why?

                              Btw, I am working on a properly configurable anti-lag system...
                              Made 1.5 bar when stationary then I let off the throttle
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                              • driftin jo
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                                • Sep 2007
                                • 2222
                                • Country: United Kingdom

                                #255
                                Originally posted by HuwSy
                                Nowhere. launch control is bad...
                                i don't understand your post

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