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  • Tractor Dave
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Dec 2017
    • 5983
    • Country: Wales

    #1

    Brake bomb replacement

    I had a strange issue develop overnight whilst the car was parked up in the garage. The pas reservoir overflowed all by itself
    Now I'm thinking this can only be because of a faulty bomb? The brake warning buzzer occasionally sounds if the car hasn't been used in a while for a few seconds on start up.
    So, I removed the bomb following the guide posted here. First of all, I do not appear to have any copper or aluminium sealing washers on the banjo connection from the pump? 7zap lists this as a sealing o ring? That doesn't seem right? Surely it should be a crush washer? But, it wasn't leaking.
    Second thing that confused me was that when I removed the brake line, I got a stream of green hydraulic fluid, not brake fluid. Shouldn't this line be clear brake fluid? Has something gone wrong with my brake booster? That would be typical as I just sold my spare
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  • Tractor Dave
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Dec 2017
    • 5983
    • Country: Wales

    #2
    Just read up on this in my Haynes manual and the pipe from the bomb to the servo unit (brake booster) is hydraulic oil. This means the guide posted here is inaccurate. There is no need to cover the brake fluid reservoir to reduce fluid loss as stated. Haynes manual also states sealing washers, not o rings so 7zap must be wrong.

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    • Mikes2
      S2Forum Extremist
      • Jul 2003
      • 1704
      • Country: Scotland

      #3
      The bomb uses hydraulic fluid. Brake fluid is only in your brake lines to the calipers and clutch hydraulics. Later cars like yours will have red o-rings on the bomb to pump line at both ends
      Mike

      http://www.s2-audi.co.uk

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      • Monkeymagic
        S2Forum Possessed
        • Mar 2012
        • 3419
        • Country: England

        #4
        I had the same issue with my PAS fluid overflowing .. the bomb was about 3 years old.. it eventually stopped. I will get round to swapping the booster again.... At some point

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        • Tractor Dave
          S2Forum Zealot
          • Dec 2017
          • 5983
          • Country: Wales

          #5
          Originally posted by Mikes2
          The bomb uses hydraulic fluid. Brake fluid is only in your brake lines to the calipers and clutch hydraulics. Later cars like yours will have red o-rings on the bomb to pump line at both ends
          I didn't have anything at the bomb end. Can these be replaced with copper or aluminium crush washers? I can't see any groove that would accept an o ring.
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          • Tractor Dave
            S2Forum Zealot
            • Dec 2017
            • 5983
            • Country: Wales

            #6
            Originally posted by Monkeymagic
            I had the same issue with my PAS fluid overflowing .. the bomb was about 3 years old.. it eventually stopped. I will get round to swapping the booster again.... At some point
            Oh no! So will I need to replace my booster as well
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            • psiconauta911
              S2Forum Maniac
              • Oct 2007
              • 613
              • Country: Portugal

              #7
              Mine are with alu washers and are fine.

              7zap indicates what seems like O-rings but no grooves on mine and had washers from factory

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              • Monkeymagic
                S2Forum Possessed
                • Mar 2012
                • 3419
                • Country: England

                #8
                I understood it to be the nitrogen ( I think it's nitrogen) leaking out and pressurises the system . Mine no longer does it as there's no charge left....

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                • LSG
                  S2Forum Maniac
                  • May 2010
                  • 897
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #9
                  I seem to remember some one on here had a bomb with a shrader valve fitted into the bottom so you could pressurise it yourself. Someone else will put me right

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                  • Tractor Dave
                    S2Forum Zealot
                    • Dec 2017
                    • 5983
                    • Country: Wales

                    #10
                    I found a Citroen specialist who can 're charge them. I've sent it off. I will keep you posted
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                    • Monkeymagic
                      S2Forum Possessed
                      • Mar 2012
                      • 3419
                      • Country: England

                      #11
                      Good man.. they look very similar to the grenade looking units used on the Citroen's eg XM BX etc.
                      I wonder what causes them to leak into the hydraulic fluid though? I really should get mine sorted.

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                      • Monkeymagic
                        S2Forum Possessed
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 3419
                        • Country: England

                        #12
                        Citroen air suspension that is...

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                        • DeS
                          S2Forum Maniac
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 611
                          • Country: Poland

                          #13
                          To refill the bomb, new valve has to installed. Then you can put new nitrogen. I know one company in Germany which offers refilling.

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                          • Lago Blue
                            S2Forum Maniac
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 843
                            • Country: Canada

                            #14
                            Re: Crush washers vs O-rings, either could be correct as originally it was somewhat chassis VIN-dependent, but is actually bomb-type dependent, see how to ID type and excellent replacement guide / 15 steps / tips here (listed middle of page):



                            Re: Bomb charge pressure described here in factory service trg manual (see 7th screen capture):

                            https://www.s2forum.com/forum/member...es#post2102356

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                            • Tractor Dave
                              S2Forum Zealot
                              • Dec 2017
                              • 5983
                              • Country: Wales

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Lago Blue
                              Re: Crush washers vs O-rings, either could be correct as originally it was somewhat chassis VIN-dependent, but is actually bomb-type dependent, see how to ID type and excellent replacement guide / 15 steps / tips here (listed middle of page):



                              Re: Bomb charge pressure described here in factory service trg manual (see 7th screen capture):

                              https://www.s2forum.com/forum/member...es#post2102356
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