Bleeding my bleeding brakes!

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  • shark_90
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Mar 2007
    • 1475
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #1

    Bleeding my bleeding brakes!

    Well I found the reason for the leaking caliper, ordered a seal kit from Hi-Spec, and rebuilt both front calipers.

    Now I'm having trouble bleeding the brakes. Apart from shearing off one of the bleed nipples I just can't seem to get a firm pedal.

    I'm using one of the kits that fits onto the bleed nipple with a non-return valve at the end of the pipe.

    I got a satisfying amount of air out of the rear brakes and I had a lovely firm pedal when I'd finished doing all the calipers.. until I started the engine. Then the pedal hits the floor and the brakes are next to useless

    What am I doing wrong?
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  • Acidburn
    S2Forum Obsessed
    • Jun 2007
    • 13459
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    IIRC you have to bleed these with the engine running (something about it bleeding thru the abs system), someone else also mentioned that the clutch might need bleeding as its on the same system.

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    • shark_90
      S2Forum Extremist
      • Mar 2007
      • 1475
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #3
      I also read that the clutch is on the same system, but I found it impossible to bleed without it being on a ramp. Maybe I could get to it a bit better from underneath.

      So should I have done it with the engine running?
      1994 Audi S2 Avant - in pieces
      2006 Skoda Octavia vRS 2.0TFSi - goes fast
      1985 Audi 90 quattro - is wet

      Don't forget the East Midlands Meet -Last Tuesday of every month at 7:30pm just off M1 J28!![/COLOR]

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      • Acidburn
        S2Forum Obsessed
        • Jun 2007
        • 13459
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #4
        I think you have to have the engine running Matt D had a thread recently saying about this as he 2 boiled the fluid at combe, iirc you can get at the clutch thru the steering rack hole from what i've heard.

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        • Acidburn
          S2Forum Obsessed
          • Jun 2007
          • 13459
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #5


          Have a look thru this thread.

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          • GT500
            S2Forum Fiend
            • Jun 2006
            • 2181
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #6
            Make sure the handbrake is off!!
            Rob..
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            • shark_90
              S2Forum Extremist
              • Mar 2007
              • 1475
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #7
              Originally posted by GT500
              Make sure the handbrake is off!!
              Yep, read that one in Paul's thread of old!
              1994 Audi S2 Avant - in pieces
              2006 Skoda Octavia vRS 2.0TFSi - goes fast
              1985 Audi 90 quattro - is wet

              Don't forget the East Midlands Meet -Last Tuesday of every month at 7:30pm just off M1 J28!![/COLOR]

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              • T2Andy
                S2Forum Extremist
                • Mar 2005
                • 1903
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                If you still cant manage the brake bleed you can come over to sheffield where we can give you a hand .myself and a few of the lads on here can sort quite a few things between us .im 20 mins from worksop.
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                • mcandmar
                  S2Forum Zealot
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 5118
                  • Country: Ireland

                  #9
                  Originally posted by GT500
                  Make sure the handbrake is off!!
                  Yep made that mistake too

                  I've always been curious, what effect would it have depressurising the bomb first?
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                  • S2central.net
                    Retired OG Mod
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 16590
                    • Country: Northern Ireland

                    #10
                    I've never seen any reference in the manuals to needing the engine running for brake bleeding. Only troubles I had was when I'd left that handbrake one.

                    Bleeding the clutch is indeed a right pain - bet mine has never been done yet.

                    Paul
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                    • Azman
                      S2Forum Possessed
                      • Sep 2005
                      • 3205
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #11
                      Don't need the engine running IIRC. And from the sounds of it the clutch will need doing too. You can get to it with the passengers side front jacked up. Tis a pain though!!!
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