RS2 Brake Upgrade - Help Please

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  • smiler
    S2Forum Addict
    • Nov 2008
    • 435
    • Country: Sweden

    #16
    Originally posted by Le S2 Audi
    352 just relates to REAR Calipers... Colour is the last 2 digits of the porsche numbers

    Example;

    996-351-425-10

    996 Model type - 351 Fronts (352 Rears) - 425/426 Left or Right side - XX Colour (But not always, as some calipers only come in one colour ie 996/997 GT3 in red)...

    HTH
    Yey... he wanted the rears 352.
    The last digits on these are 13 for the red ones
    /Thomas
    RS2-94

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    • RS2-R1
      S2Forum Tinkerer
      • Mar 2009
      • 7
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #17
      Ok guys, update time.

      I have sourced but not yet purchased some calipers and need to double check what's needed to fit these.

      They are the standard Boxster S/996 part no's 996-351-425/426 Fronts, 996-352-421/422 Rears.

      Will these fit straight on without the need for brackets front and rear?

      Also, which discs and pads should I use with these calipers and where can I get them?

      I also notice a sensor on these calipers, can I just remove this or is it used?

      Your help would be very much appreciated. Thanks

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      • Jamo
        Retired OG Mod
        • Mar 2004
        • 21750
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #18
        Originally posted by RS2-R1
        Ok guys, update time.

        I have sourced but not yet purchased some calipers and need to double check what's needed to fit these.

        They are the standard Boxster S/996 part no's 996-351-425/426 Fronts, 996-352-421/422 Rears.

        Will these fit straight on without the need for brackets front and rear?

        Also, which discs and pads should I use with these calipers and where can I get them?

        I also notice a sensor on these calipers, can I just remove this or is it used?

        Your help would be very much appreciated. Thanks
        As per the previous posts you need custom brackets for the RS2

        You need to buy the brackets from Bruno for front and rear with those calipers

        Pads are you own choice to what you want to use spend

        Front discs you can use either the audi Rs2 322mm 2 piece discs or the cheaper and probably recommended option and the 964/965 porsche turbo 322 one piece disc

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        • Le S2 Audi
          S2Forum Possessed
          • Jul 2009
          • 3805
          • Home: Scotland Current: England

          #19
          Daft question but why do you need the custom brackets for these calipers?

          We S2 users use the RS2 bracket to mount the same calipers??

          Is it to do with the offset for the disc's?


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          • Jamo
            Retired OG Mod
            • Mar 2004
            • 21750
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #20
            Originally posted by Le S2 Audi
            Daft question but why do you need the custom brackets for these calipers?

            We S2 users use the RS2 bracket to mount the same calipers??

            Is it to do with the offset for the disc's?

            RS2 discs are different size and hat, they are 322mm not 323mm or 314mm which the S2 use.

            You would have to mill of 1.7mm, I spoke with Bruno about it who has designed the brackets front and rear.

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            • Le S2 Audi
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              • Jul 2009
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              #21
              Thanks Jamo...

              Worthwhile knowing...


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              • Jamo
                Retired OG Mod
                • Mar 2004
                • 21750
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #22


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                • PaulJ
                  S2Forum Addict
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 253
                  • Country: Scotland

                  #23
                  I would go with Jamo's setup but use the 322mm disk as with the 330 there is little clearance between the caliper and rim, pick up a stone and bith get scraped

                  Interestingly seen a brake setup on a time attack car at the weekend from a DTM car
                  disks only 320mm but carbon, looked the business and V light as well
                  1995 RS2 Nogaro
                  1971 Lotus Elan Sprint
                  1974 Lotus Elan+2S 130/5

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                  • PaulJ
                    S2Forum Addict
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 253
                    • Country: Scotland

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Jamo
                    I have the Bruno brackets for the rear and I have custom TideRS brackets for the front

                    This changes my brake spec to

                    Front:

                    Calipers 996 turbo / GT3 996-351-429 & 996-351-430 GT2/GT3 C4 Turbo Front Calipers...
                    Disc 996 turbo: left 996.351.409.02 & right 996.351.410.02 each disc 330x34mm

                    Rear

                    Bruno bracket with 928 5.4 GTS sports disc option 299x24
                    996-352-421 & 996-352-422 Rear Calipers


                    Next option down would be to use the 322x32 disc from the 964 /965 turbo and use the bambridge caliper brackets with the front 996-351-429 & 996-351-430 option.

                    Next option down would be bruno brackets all round with boxster 996 S calipers all round 996-351-425 & 996-351-426 on the front

                    The biggest choice will be front calipers, I chose the 996 Turbo and 996 Turbo discs option as believe it or not it is cheaper that the boxster 996 S all round option as the discs are only £80 each in comparison to £144 each for the 964 / 965 discs although you have to pay more for the 996 turbo calipers it offsets it self as pads are also cheaper for the 996 turbo calipers.

                    All the above will fit under 17" with the wheel weights moved accordingly ( I will be using 19" ).

                    If your feeling flush then you can use the http://www.ultimot.de/ RS2 kit and go for the RS4 B7 8 pots calipers with 350mm or 368mm discs however I would think you need 18" minimum alloys for them.

                    Hi Jamo, What 19's are you gonna use as I'me thinking seriously about it
                    1995 RS2 Nogaro
                    1971 Lotus Elan Sprint
                    1974 Lotus Elan+2S 130/5

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                    • RS2-R1
                      S2Forum Tinkerer
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 7
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #25
                      Thanks guys, you're a really helpful bunch!!! I'm sure I"ll be back to pick some more information!!!

                      Just one question @ Jamo: Do you know where I can source the 964/965 porsche turbo 322 one piece disc and roughly how much I can be expecting to pay? I'm just pricing up the whole job and parts list etc.

                      Cheers

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                      • Jamo
                        Retired OG Mod
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 21750
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #26
                        Originally posted by RS2-R1
                        Thanks guys, you're a really helpful bunch!!! I'm sure I"ll be back to pick some more information!!!

                        Just one question @ Jamo: Do you know where I can source the 964/965 porsche turbo 322 one piece disc and roughly how much I can be expecting to pay? I'm just pricing up the whole job and parts list etc.

                        Cheers
                        Any online Porsche shop, design911, type911, porscheshop, partsforporsche.co.uk

                        cheapest is probaly jasmine motorsport be around 144-150 per disc for the 322mm

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                        • RS2-R1
                          S2Forum Tinkerer
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 7
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #27
                          Thanks Jamo, and I just noticed, what about the rear discs for these calipers? Sorry for all the questions, I just need to be sure before I spend out and buy the bits!! I don't want to get the wrong ones!

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                          • Jamo
                            Retired OG Mod
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 21750
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #28
                            Originally posted by RS2-R1
                            Thanks Jamo, and I just noticed, what about the rear discs for these calipers? Sorry for all the questions, I just need to be sure before I spend out and buy the bits!! I don't want to get the wrong ones!
                            you use stock RS2 discs or porsche 928 if you dont want cross drilled

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                            • wowow
                              S2Forum Enthusiast
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 123
                              • Country: Hong Kong

                              #29
                              Guys, I have a 95 RS2 and am being offered a set of 996 turbo
                              FRONT Calipers : 996-351-429 & 430. Discs : 996.351.409 & 410
                              REAR Calipers : 996-352-425 & 426. Discs : 996.352.405 & 406

                              I am kind of confused as to which bracket to use. Direct bolt on in the front and Bruno's bracket in the rear ? I think Bruno's bracket is not meant for 996.352.425/426. Pls help.
                              Last edited by wowow; 19 January 2011, 17:45.
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                              • Jamo
                                Retired OG Mod
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 21750
                                • Country: United Kingdom

                                #30
                                Originally posted by wowow
                                Guys, I have a 95 RS2 and am being offered a set of 996 turbo
                                FRONT Calipers : 996-351-429 & 430. Discs : 996.351.409 & 410
                                REAR Calipers : 996-352-425 & 426. Discs : 996.352.405 & 406

                                I am kind of confused as to which bracket to use. Direct bolt on in the front and Bruno's bracket in the rear ? I think Bruno's bracket is not meant for 996.352.425/426. Pls help.
                                Breitling and TideRS have done this but modified the handbrake, no idea on the bracket they used sorry.

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