Brake Lines For 996 Upgrade - *URGENT*

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  • driftin jo
    S2Forum Fiend
    • Sep 2007
    • 2222
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #31
    Spigot rings dont move the wheel out like a spacer the just sit in the wheel to make the diameter correct to locate on the hub.
    looking at the pic again is it that the wheel is no reaching the hub it is hard to tell ?, if so spigot rings are not the solution.

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    • steverrquattro
      S2Forum Maniac
      • Oct 2006
      • 787
      • Country: England

      #32
      Just found this posted by GT500 some time ago:

      'I have Porsche ones on my UR.
      mine are 968/944 fronts with a sport quattro rear disc. The original wheels can still be fitted you just need to machine of some of the built in spacer 13mm I seem to remember..
      You can't get a fag paper between wheel and caliper (stops them getting dusty!) can take a pic if you need!'
      Steve

      1990 RR 20V
      1982 SWB UR - RS2 Engine

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      • steverrquattro
        S2Forum Maniac
        • Oct 2006
        • 787
        • Country: England

        #33
        Originally posted by driftin jo
        Spigot rings dont move the wheel out like a spacer the just sit in the wheel to make the diameter correct to locate on the hub.
        looking at the pic again is it that the wheel is no reaching the hub it is hard to tell ?, if so spigot rings are not the solution.
        You are correct, the wheel is not reaching the hub.
        Steve

        1990 RR 20V
        1982 SWB UR - RS2 Engine

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        • driftin jo
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          • Sep 2007
          • 2222
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #34
          Originally posted by steverrquattro
          Just found this posted by GT500 some time ago:

          'I have Porsche ones on my UR.
          mine are 968/944 fronts with a sport quattro rear disc. The original wheels can still be fitted you just need to machine of some of the built in spacer 13mm I seem to remember..
          You can't get a fag paper between wheel and caliper (stops them getting dusty!) can take a pic if you need!'
          I take it he is referring to machining the disc pads back

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          • DJones
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            • Jun 2005
            • 2020
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #35
            Steve,

            Go back to post #18, could do with a picture from an angle as opposed to face on. You can see from my picture that there is enough hub showing to locate within the wheel. So i can only presume that mine must have been milled down.

            Sorry i cant help further...

            Darren.

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            • driftin jo
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              • Sep 2007
              • 2222
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #36
              Just so there is no confusion, when I say machining the disc pads back, I mean the five pads of metal where the bolt holes come through on the disc .

              If this is what is needed it is only a half hour job on a lathe to do all 4 discs.

              It of course would be better if you didn't have to do this and just had a discs that worked with that set up.

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              • URquattroGus
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                • Aug 2007
                • 547
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #37
                This is probably a red herring, and I'm sure you checked, but are the calipers and subsequent disc are correct? Pretty sure only the outer or my discs was worked.

                I used 986 Boxster 2.7/2.5 fronts. I was told the Boxster S caliper was different, and very similar or the same as some 996 such as the C4S. I had to check the numbers on the calipers to be sure. Its not unheard of for people to have rear calipers too.

                Just a thought. It may depend on the caliper brackets.
                Angus

                (1984 ur quattro)

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                • steverrquattro
                  S2Forum Maniac
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 787
                  • Country: England

                  #38
                  Originally posted by URquattroGus
                  This is probably a red herring, and I'm sure you checked, but are the calipers and subsequent disc are correct? Pretty sure only the outer or my discs was worked.

                  I used 986 Boxster 2.7/2.5 fronts. I was told the Boxster S caliper was different, and very similar or the same as some 996 such as the C4S. I had to check the numbers on the calipers to be sure. Its not unheard of for people to have rear calipers too.

                  Just a thought. It may depend on the caliper brackets.
                  The part numbers off the callipers 996.351.425 and 996.351.426. These are the fronts off a 3.2 Boxter S. I will check the discs tomorrow as I'm out at the moment.

                  I can't help thinking that there is some machining to be done somewhere, but I just need to know what to take off and where from.

                  A friend of mine had this upgrade done by Corey, but as well know he's not around anymore. Think I'll nip through in the morning to see what the difference is with my mates set-up.
                  Steve

                  1990 RR 20V
                  1982 SWB UR - RS2 Engine

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                  • terrybullwon
                    S2Forum Zealot
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 8782
                    • Country: England

                    #39
                    Please change the grammar in your post to read correctly. Here you go this reads better.

                    Originally posted by steverrquattro
                    The part numbers off the callipers 996.351.425 and 996.351.426. These are the fronts off a 3.2 Boxter S. I will check the discs tomorrow as I'm out at the moment.

                    I can't help thinking that there is some machining to be done somewhere, but I just need to know what to take off and where from.

                    A friend of mine had this upgrade done by :corey::corey::corey::corey: but as well know he's not around anymore. Think I'll nip through in the morning to see what the difference is with my mates set-up.
                    Chef

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                    • URquattroGus
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                      • Aug 2007
                      • 547
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #40
                      Haha, can it be programmed into the spell checker to automatically change? Or should it be the perennial and unforrtunate misprint as per Piers Morgan AKA Piers Moron.
                      Angus

                      (1984 ur quattro)

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                      • twoqu
                        S2Forum Possessed
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 3103

                        #41
                        Have you machined the 45 degree chamfer on the rear of the disc. Seem to remember that the Sport disc did not have the chamfer. Without it the disc doesen't sit correctly on the hub.
                        If you have not, just use the std disc as a reference/comparsion to see what need to be done.

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                        • steverrquattro
                          S2Forum Maniac
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 787
                          • Country: England

                          #42
                          Originally posted by twoqu
                          Have you machined the 45 degree chamfer on the rear of the disc. Seem to remember that the Sport disc did not have the chamfer. Without it the disc doesen't sit correctly on the hub.
                          If you have not, just use the std disc as a reference/comparsion to see what need to be done.
                          I'm going to take one off a car this morning that already has this conversion to see what the changes are.
                          Steve

                          1990 RR 20V
                          1982 SWB UR - RS2 Engine

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                          • steverrquattro
                            S2Forum Maniac
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 787
                            • Country: England

                            #43
                            Just to close this thread off and to say thanks for the help and in particular to Kev, aka Bambridge which without him I would not have finished the job.

                            Incidentally I didn't finish it until 8.10 so that meant driving through the night and getting there at 5.30 in the morning.

                            Basically the hat height needs machining down and then some taking off the guides for the pads. Last of all I had to file the edge of the calliper due to the taper of the wheel. Obviously I will repaint this at a later date, but as you can see it's a tight fit..........but well worth it for the extra performance.

                            22 cars in total, fantastic roads and loads of beer!







                            Last edited by steverrquattro; 31 October 2011, 16:12.
                            Steve

                            1990 RR 20V
                            1982 SWB UR - RS2 Engine

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