Occasional hard brake pedal

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  • rynaqui
    S2Forum Fiend
    • Mar 2012
    • 2752
    • Country: Malta

    #1

    Occasional hard brake pedal

    After startup, I normally have a very hard brake pedal when driving a few metres then it goes ok after about 1 minute. Occasionally during driving I get that same feeling, very hard brake pedal and almost no assistance when braking, what could the problem be in this case? Perhaps I need to re-bleed the brakes?

    Think the accumulator is working fine as after startup then the pressure builds fine. Also I do have two rear daff ABS sensors (I think two at least!) would that have anything to do with it? Cheers
    1996 S2 ABY Silver
  • jade
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Jan 2005
    • 1811
    • Home: New Zealand Current: Spain

    #2
    Originally posted by rynaqui
    After startup, I normally have a very hard brake pedal when driving a few metres then it goes ok after about 1 minute. Occasionally during driving I get that same feeling, very hard brake pedal and almost no assistance when braking, what could the problem be in this case? Perhaps I need to re-bleed the brakes?

    Think the accumulator is working fine as after startup then the pressure builds fine. Also I do have two rear daff ABS sensors (I think two at least!) would that have anything to do with it? Cheers
    I had that when my servo went Bad
    RS 2 580HP

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    • rynaqui
      S2Forum Fiend
      • Mar 2012
      • 2752
      • Country: Malta

      #3
      I have been fearing this actually..

      Are there any more suggestions before I take the plunge on a new brake servo? My accumulator is new (only 1 year old).

      Can't really get this car finished can I
      1996 S2 ABY Silver

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      • Cottis
        S2Forum Extremist
        • Feb 2011
        • 1448
        • Country: England

        #4
        It is endless Ryan. Mine is now all sorted and then my temp gauge starts reading a bit low. Now my brakes seem to be short of assistance for a mile or so after startup before feeling fine. Assume that might be a weak bomb but like you say, these cars are never perfect.

        Good luck with it.

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        • Human Joist
          S2Forum Enthusiast
          • Nov 2012
          • 189
          • Country: England

          #5
          Correct me if wrong but isn't that the brake bomb. From what i understand it keeps pressure in, so your brakes will be efficant when you first drive off as the servo takes a few seconds. But this should also throw a light on with the issue ...... Or have I got it wrong. Sorry if I have got it wrong.

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          • Monkeymagic
            S2Forum Possessed
            • Mar 2012
            • 3419
            • Country: England

            #6
            You refer to the accumulator Jim. Ryanaqui make sure the wires to the pressure switch are actually connected.
            my bmob failed after a year the check valve stuck open causing the car to dump pas fluid

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            • rynaqui
              S2Forum Fiend
              • Mar 2012
              • 2752
              • Country: Malta

              #7
              Originally posted by Monkeymagic
              You refer to the accumulator Jim. Ryanaqui make sure the wires to the pressure switch are actually connected.
              my bmob failed after a year the check valve stuck open causing the car to dump pas fluid
              They are connected and I never get the light, I used to get the light before I replaced the brake bomb so I am sure it is working fine. Also I got it when I replaced my hydraulic fluid with genuine Audi G00400.

              The problem started when I had the car sat for about four months, new rear brake kit and front calipers rebuilt, so all the fluid was drained and bled. Maybe I could try and bleed the system properly again..
              1996 S2 ABY Silver

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              • UrS4boy
                S2Forum Obsessed
                • Feb 2006
                • 11859
                • Country: Canada

                #8
                I'm a Doctor Jim, not a bomb disposal expert

                Originally posted by Human Joist
                Correct me if wrong but isn't that the brake bomb?
                Originally posted by Monkeymagic
                You refer to the accumulator Jim.
                RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
                94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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                • Rusty
                  Super Moderator
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 18953
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #9
                  Does the pedal pulse when it goes hard?
                  Cheers'en, AndyC
                  1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                  • S2central.net
                    Retired OG Mod
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 16590
                    • Country: Northern Ireland

                    #10
                    Anybody else notice the difference in consistency of the rather gloopy G002000 OE fluid version it's replacement G004000 ?

                    They are both green but the new stuff feels desperately thin in comparison. Sorry for slightly OT.
                    Paul Nugent
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                    • quattrostyle
                      S2Forum Zealot
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 6229
                      • Country: Netherlands

                      #11
                      Just go vacuum Ryan.

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                      • bartolomeus
                        S2Forum Extremist
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 1475
                        • Country: Romania

                        #12
                        Check the pas pump.

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                        • Error404
                          Super Moderator
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 19789
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #13
                          Bad servo
                          Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
                          Indigo ABY coupé
                          Imola B6 S4 Avant

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                          • Tonks4x4
                            Retired OG Mod
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 3062
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #14
                            I have a few second hand hydraulic servo's if required... £45 + post
                            Audi Nut!!!

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                            • rynaqui
                              S2Forum Fiend
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 2752
                              • Country: Malta

                              #15
                              Just an update on the situation.

                              The brake pedal is now taking a good 3 minutes or so to free up. After stopping at a petrol station and chatting with some friends then starting up again, the pedal is also hard and took a while to free up.

                              What do you guys think? I was pointing towards brake bomb but the light isn't coming on and I get a good 40 pumps from the pedal when turned off before it goes hard.
                              1996 S2 ABY Silver

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