314 v 323 discs with 996s

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  • andy10v
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Mar 2009
    • 5996
    • Country: Scotland

    #1

    314 v 323 discs with 996s

    I think I need new discs form my 996/314mm front brakes (bambridge calliper carriers)

    Are the 314 and 323 discs the same hat height?

    If so is there any reall benefit of switching to 323s? (eg better venting)
    Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

    Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
    Sold ABY-stock
  • rynaqui
    S2Forum Fiend
    • Mar 2012
    • 2752
    • Country: Malta

    #2
    What I found between smaller setup and 323 is that there was no overlap on the pad so the pad actually covered the whole disc.

    Fit like a glove and I do believe hat height was the same but I forgot. Didn't notice any further protrusion of the wheel than before.
    1996 S2 ABY Silver

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    • Rusty
      Super Moderator
      • Jun 2004
      • 18953
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #3
      Same dims other than diameter. Only reason to go 314 is so you can fit OE 16s on. 323 are rear vented, so would be better with brake ducts.

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      Cheers'en, AndyC
      1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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      • Rusty
        Super Moderator
        • Jun 2004
        • 18953
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #4
        I'm interested in the 345mm S8 option :mischeif:
        Cheers'en, AndyC
        1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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        • martinjs
          S2Forum Possessed
          • Jul 2003
          • 3205
          • Country: England

          #5
          Weigh a ton though, may as well go S5 disc with cayenne calipers like steveh

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          • s2driveruk
            Super Moderator
            • Jul 2003
            • 12696
            • Country: England

            #6
            they are something stupid weight wise. I remember borrowing some from a local dealer to check fitment on a set of brembo monos from a Megane before going down the 996 c2 route.
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            1992 3b S2 Coupe

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            • andy10v
              S2Forum Zealot
              • Mar 2009
              • 5996
              • Country: Scotland

              #7
              Thanks gents.

              If I was going to go BIG I would want alloy bells, no point doubling the wheel weight.
              Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

              Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
              Sold ABY-stock

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              • Rusty
                Super Moderator
                • Jun 2004
                • 18953
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                From Brembo -

                314 - 10kg
                323 - 10.6kg
                345 - 12.1kg
                S5 345x29.5 - 10.9kg
                Merc 330x32 - 11.7kg

                Hardly double!
                Cheers'en, AndyC
                1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                • s2driveruk
                  Super Moderator
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 12696
                  • Country: England

                  #9
                  345x29.5 S5 disc is a bit on the skinny side...i always think the 323x30s would be better as 32's for heat dissipation
                  sigpic

                  1992 3b S2 Coupe

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                  • driftin jo
                    S2Forum Fiend
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 2222
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    Originally posted by s2driveruk
                    345x29.5 S5 disc is a bit on the skinny side...i always think the 323x30s would be better as 32's for heat dissipation
                    That make no sense, the S5 disc has more mass at 10.9kg and more surface area, so
                    will have much better heat dissipation.

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                    • Error404
                      Super Moderator
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 19789
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #11
                      It would be good to have a thread detailing the weights of different discs and calipers, for reference. I will start one
                      Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
                      Indigo ABY coupé
                      Imola B6 S4 Avant

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                      • Rusty
                        Super Moderator
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 18953
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        at 100mm offset from centre, and keeping the top of the disc in the same location, the caliper would have to move up by the following amounts over and above the diameter difference.

                        314mm - Datum
                        323mm - 1.28mm
                        330mm - 2.21mm
                        335mm - 2.84mm
                        345mm - 4.01mm



                        As the 330 is the largest disc that the caliper is designed to accommodate (albeit in 28mm thickness), you'd have to accept a 1.8mm overlap or decrease some clearance from somewhere. I'd suggest that you could get it down to a 1mm clearance with a bit of a close shave!
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                        Cheers'en, AndyC
                        1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                        • andy10v
                          S2Forum Zealot
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 5996
                          • Country: Scotland

                          #13
                          That is great info, thanks Andy.

                          I am surprised at the weight.

                          I am interested in your other thread now.
                          Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

                          Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
                          Sold ABY-stock

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                          • Rusty
                            Super Moderator
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 18953
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #14
                            So am I
                            Cheers'en, AndyC
                            1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                            • Rusty
                              Super Moderator
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 18953
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #15
                              TT uses 340x30 discs but offset and centre bore are off.
                              Cheers'en, AndyC
                              1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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