Urgent! Where can I find RPM signal / speed Signal?

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  • Jonas_R
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    • Jan 2004
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    • Country: Denmark

    #1

    Urgent! Where can I find RPM signal / speed Signal?

    Anybody that knows where I can get the RPM signal Speed signal from?

    I was hoping that I could get it somewhere in the instrument cluster?

    Cheers

    Jonas
    Sleeper S2 Avant +450

    A6 Avant 2.7t Stage 3

    Audi S2 Coupe RS2'ed
  • S2central.net
    Retired OG Mod
    • Jul 2003
    • 16590
    • Country: Northern Ireland

    #2
    Its there alright - follow S2central thru the cluster part of the technical chapter - there are pinouts of the various connectors. I'll have a look if you can't find what you need.
    Paul Nugent
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    • S2central.net
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      • Jul 2003
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      #3
      Ohhh whoops - the pinout schematic is here, but not linked properly at the moment. Sorry - http://s2central.net/autocheck_pinout.html

      Paul
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      • Casper...
        S2Forum Enthusiast
        • Jul 2007
        • 120
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        #4
        Try Paul (S2central.net) he has the wiring diagrams for a 3B...
        It also to possible take signal at the sensor...

        Casper...

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        • S2central.net
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          • Jul 2003
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          #5
          That page is flakey somehow - you'll find what you need on pin 22 (twenty-two) of the yellow 26-pin connector on the cluster. With a meter you can trace that connection to the pins on the rear of the tacho... Up to you how best you need to make the connection.

          WHat are you wiring up out of interest ?

          Don't forget that many 3rd party devices do not understand 5-cyl rpm signal.
          Paul Nugent
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          • Jonas_R
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            • Jan 2004
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            #6
            Hi Paul,

            After looking through your papers and me Bently manual etc. I came to the conclusion that I needed the VVS signal? Located on Pin 18 on connector 26A, perhaps I was mistaken there?

            Anyways I need it for my Cruise Control and for my Zeitronix datalogger

            Want to start it up tomorrow to see how it works, but it does seem that I need to wait a couple of days since it is snowing right now and I dont fancy going 200km/t+ in this weather

            Cheers

            Jonas
            Sleeper S2 Avant +450

            A6 Avant 2.7t Stage 3

            Audi S2 Coupe RS2'ed

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            • S2central.net
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              • Jul 2003
              • 16590
              • Country: Northern Ireland

              #7
              VSS you mean - that is vehicle speed signal - commonly found as white/blue cable across much of the loom - behind cluster, centre console, ABS, Cruise, difflock etc etc

              VSS tells us how fast the car is moving - surely the Zeitronix cannot understand that signal ?

              Zeitronix could make sense of engine RPM if it can cater for 5-cyl engine (think it does)


              Paul
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              • Audibits
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                • Jul 2007
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                #8
                Originally posted by Jonas_R
                Anybody that knows where I can get the RPM signal Speed signal from?

                I was hoping that I could get it somewhere in the instrument cluster?

                Cheers

                Jonas
                rpm speed sensor is on the gearbox bell housing on the right as you look into the engine bay

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                • S2central.net
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                  • Jul 2003
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                  #9
                  Yeah buts that only meaningful to an ECU a millivolt sawtooth waveform... The ECU reformats the signal into 'line level' that a rev counter understands.
                  Paul Nugent
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                  • andyg plym
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                    • Nov 2006
                    • 4646
                    • Country: England

                    #10
                    i think it could be the blue and green wire in the back of the cluster,i took that as a feed for my shift lights which need rpm signal
                    hth

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                    • slow2
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                      • Apr 2004
                      • 238
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Jonas_R
                      Anybody that knows where I can get the RPM signal Speed signal from?

                      I was hoping that I could get it somewhere in the instrument cluster?

                      Cheers

                      Jonas

                      When I'm looking for signal outputs I tap into wiring near the ECU plug, that way
                      you can tell which wires carry what signals, start by looking on here,


                      Pin nunber 6 for 3B or pin number 40 for ABY give you RPM (tachometer) signal,
                      you can feed you zietronix with the rpm output from this.
                      Dez

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                      • Jonas_R
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                        • Jan 2004
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                        #12
                        Thanks alot guys

                        Weather is looking good to day so perhaps I can do some test runs.
                        Sleeper S2 Avant +450

                        A6 Avant 2.7t Stage 3

                        Audi S2 Coupe RS2'ed

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                        • Bowlerwell
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                          • Sep 2005
                          • 1052
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                          #13
                          ok, i'm gonna be putting in my cruise control over the next couple of weeks... Just to confirm, is it the RPM (Tacho) signal, or the VSS signal that I want?
                          John Bowlerwell
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                          • Jonas_R
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                            #14
                            Iam pretty sure that you need the VSS for the Cruise control.
                            Sleeper S2 Avant +450

                            A6 Avant 2.7t Stage 3

                            Audi S2 Coupe RS2'ed

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                            • Faheemo
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                              • Feb 2005
                              • 544
                              • Country: South Africa

                              #15
                              Originally posted by slow2
                              When I'm looking for signal outputs I tap into wiring near the ECU plug, that way
                              you can tell which wires carry what signals, start by looking on here,


                              Pin nunber 6 for 3B or pin number 40 for ABY give you RPM (tachometer) signal,
                              you can feed you zietronix with the rpm output from this.
                              Correct i've tapped into this wire off the ECU to run my Zeitronix.
                              Yes Zeitronix understands 5cyl - gotta set it up in the software menu.

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