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  • rs200
    S2Forum Extremist
    • May 2009
    • 1398
    • Home: Croatia

    #1

    MC2 converting to MOTRONIC

    hy people.
    next week I start to do conveting MC2 (10vturbo) to motronic (AAN).
    did someone here done something simullar and will I need custom remap?

    the thing is to stay on stock (230hp) . I allredy know that few things must be changed, like intake manifold for throttle , and custom fuel rail.

    everything is possible , so I will do this with your help. there will be lot of pictures and hope that thread could be DIY or guide for converting.
    I think MC2 is good engine and they deserve better status . K-Jet is week point, BUT there is something special in it.
    I will do it.
    please if you have some advice for me, say it. because I have lot of questions for you.

    questions;
    kkk 24 or 26 ?
    wastegate mc2 or 3b?
    how did fuel rail look inside? is them just pipe with 5 wholes or they have something more inside of them?

    I know that conecting rod is better on MC2 that 3B , but what is with pistons? are they forged too ?
  • UrS4boy
    S2Forum Obsessed
    • Feb 2006
    • 11859
    • Country: Canada

    #2
    Originally posted by rs200
    ... the thing is to stay on stock (230hp) ...
    Even with all the AAN peripherals, i.e. injectors and turbo, you will not get 230 (stock AAN DIN hp) without a serious amount of custom tuning. A non-cross flow 10V head just won't breath as well as a cross-flow 20V head.

    Better to source and install a 3B (or ABY).
    RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
    94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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    • rs200
      S2Forum Extremist
      • May 2009
      • 1398
      • Home: Croatia

      #3
      where is different between 3b and aan ? only ignition is different. aan is better solution. coil per cilinder is better than 100years old dizzy .
      maybe we will not get 230hp, but the point is to kick K-Jet in trash.

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      • rs200
        S2Forum Extremist
        • May 2009
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        • Home: Croatia

        #4
        if I remember well .. here on forum was one urquattro with mc2 on motronic. do you remember where is that project thread?

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        • rs200
          S2Forum Extremist
          • May 2009
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          • Home: Croatia

          #5
          here is a few video what I find ..
          did someone sew that project somewere?



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          • rs200
            S2Forum Extremist
            • May 2009
            • 1398
            • Home: Croatia

            #6


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            • djh
              S2Forum Extremist
              • Jun 2011
              • 1622
              • Home: United States Current: United Kingdom

              #7
              ian simmonds did look into it on his car but ended up changing to a 20vt engine.

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              • newsh
                S2Forum Obsessed
                • Aug 2003
                • 16226
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                PM Astro on here, he has built a 10v motronic UR. Pete Berry at White Cottage Quattros has done a few.

                S2 Coupe 3B Project


                Ur quattro restoration

                S2 Avant

                Boost is the new rock and roll!
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                • newsh
                  S2Forum Obsessed
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 16226
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #9
                  Originally posted by UrS4boy
                  Even with all the AAN peripherals, i.e. injectors and turbo, you will not get 230 (stock AAN DIN hp) without a serious amount of custom tuning. A non-cross flow 10V head just won't breath as well as a cross-flow 20V head.

                  Better to source and install a 3B (or ABY).
                  You're missing the point, a 10 valve has a different character, I wish I could take you out in mine, I think you'd like it.

                  S2 Coupe 3B Project


                  Ur quattro restoration

                  S2 Avant

                  Boost is the new rock and roll!
                  sigpic

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                  • UrS4boy
                    S2Forum Obsessed
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 11859
                    • Country: Canada

                    #10
                    Originally posted by newsh
                    You're missing the point, a 10 valve has a different character, I wish I could take you out in mine, I think you'd like it.
                    Like less power, less torque and lower redline? Sorry, I'll stick with my RS2'd (all OE parts plus MRC Stage 3 s/w) AAN, thanks.
                    RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
                    94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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                    • terrybullwon
                      S2Forum Zealot
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 8782
                      • Country: England

                      #11
                      Originally posted by UrS4boy
                      Like less power, less torque and lower redline? Sorry, I'll stick with my RS2'd (all OE parts plus MRC Stage 3 s/w) AAN, thanks.
                      But your car is like a Bus...... it needs all that power to make it as fast as a 10v

                      Your ignorance really ****es me off. a 10V like this will be a really cool motor.

                      If you have nothing constructive or nice to say well say nothing at all.

                      ( i know thats a contradiction but i feel this forum is going south again )
                      Chef

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                      • K Simmonds
                        S2Forum Zealot
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 7627
                        • Country: Wales

                        #12


                        With both Terry and Newsh!!! Very much so.
                        1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
                        1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
                        1994 MTM RS2.
                        1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
                        2000 B5 TQS.

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                        • Avantus
                          S2Forum Maniac
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 941
                          • Country: Belgium

                          #13
                          Loved my 2 MC2's in turbo quattro trim. Maxxed out K-jet at 1.1 bar, with an open decat exhaust. Lovely engine which surprised lots of modern
                          sportscars. Bit more diesel-like torquey experience. Mainly due to the shorter gear ratios.

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                          • Matas
                            S2Forum Buff
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 35
                            • Country: Lithuania

                            #14
                            Hello, I have done mc2 conversion to 3b and then to megasquirt. Went for megasquirt just becouse didn't want to pay for mapping of motronic. the car ran quite good with motronic, but with megasquirt i thinks it runs better



                            and here with megasquirt, no fine tooning done yet.



                            here's how my fuel rail v2 looks like:

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                            • Baldy
                              S2Forum Addict
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 469
                              • Home: Sikkim Current: British Antarctic Territory

                              #15
                              This pic was taken from an S2forum rolling road day so it must be some1 on here. it was running motronic bosch greens and coil packs.
                              Nautic Blue UR-Quattro RS2spec ABY20v kkk26/27 hybrid,Bremsport Brake Kit n some other Gubbins.water injection. Mihnea tuned Management The old Bus
                              0-60 4.9
                              1/4mile 13.5

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