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  • Error404
    Super Moderator
    • Mar 2007
    • 19789
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #1

    ****ing rats nest!

    Is it just me or was Audi's attempt at sizing all the looms to creating a tidy RHD fuseboard / aux relay cluster a ****ing abortion?! Trying to get all my wiring reinstalled and I just can't get it into a tidy arrangement down there, half the looms are too long and there just doesn't seem to be a way to do it nicely without a tangled mess of spaghetti! Is everyones this much of a mess?
    Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
    Indigo ABY coupé
    Imola B6 S4 Avant
  • mdz
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Jun 2012
    • 775
    • Country: Latvia

    #2
    Yep, been there too and completely agree with you. I would like to shake a hand to that genius who thought it's a great idea to create worst wire arrangement ever.

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    • rj scotty
      S2Forum Fiend
      • May 2006
      • 2195
      • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

      #3
      It's a disgrace but common to VAG. The RHD market gets shafted all the time.
      The T4 has a wiring harness that takes everything from the ECU in the passenger side engine bay ACROSS THE TOP OF THE ENGINE and on to the clocks, drive by wire throttle and stalks etc. The insulation gets rubbed off the cables over time and if water gets in to the conduit that covers them all hell brakes loose.
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      "For what you spent on that you could have brought a new car"
      BUT I DON'T WANT A NEW CAR!

      1995 S2 Avant, Volcano Black
      1982 VW Golf Mk1, primer yellow, will be finished one day, maybe.
      2003 VW T4 long nose X pack, (has become project)

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      • rj scotty
        S2Forum Fiend
        • May 2006
        • 2195
        • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

        #4
        And the s2 RHD? you can't even see the under side of the fuse box!
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        "For what you spent on that you could have brought a new car"
        BUT I DON'T WANT A NEW CAR!

        1995 S2 Avant, Volcano Black
        1982 VW Golf Mk1, primer yellow, will be finished one day, maybe.
        2003 VW T4 long nose X pack, (has become project)

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        • Error404
          Super Moderator
          • Mar 2007
          • 19789
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #5
          Some pics of the underside of Fatty's fuseboard


          This makes me feel better - at least OEM is supposed to be a pig's ear

          I'm not going to lie, I have considered depinning every connector and cutting the looms to the right size so it fits nice and neat.
          Not going to though, I'm not that mental
          Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
          Indigo ABY coupé
          Imola B6 S4 Avant

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          • rj scotty
            S2Forum Fiend
            • May 2006
            • 2195
            • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

            #6
            I would consider your fairly sane for doing that, you could make a far better job of it with some thought.

            I dread taking the cover off from under the steering column as you know what is going to confront you!
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            "For what you spent on that you could have brought a new car"
            BUT I DON'T WANT A NEW CAR!

            1995 S2 Avant, Volcano Black
            1982 VW Golf Mk1, primer yellow, will be finished one day, maybe.
            2003 VW T4 long nose X pack, (has become project)

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            • Monkeymagic
              S2Forum Possessed
              • Mar 2012
              • 3419
              • Country: England

              #7
              Ha ha I knew exactly what you were referring to just from the title.

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              • re2500
                S2Forum Fiend
                • May 2007
                • 2185
                • Country: Wales

                #8
                haha, yep sadly where all plagued with that horrible loom, its like its a foot too long! i found it impossible to get tidy when i fitted my ABY loom.
                Black B3 1990 CQ 2.3E converted to ABY & 6spd. (301bhp) - Now Sold
                03 Dolphin B6 S4 Avant LPG - New Daily Wagon
                01 Silver D2 A8 3.7 quattro sport - SOLD

                "Difficult is worth doing"

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                • quattrostyle
                  S2Forum Zealot
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 6229
                  • Country: Netherlands

                  #9
                  It's not only the RHD cars you guys. The LHD ones are just as bad.
                  Audi would have done better to copy what BMW did for example. I'm not into wiring looms at all but the BMW ones I've seen of some friends cars are much neater and easier if you like.

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                  • V6quattro
                    S2Forum Maniac
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 949
                    • Country: Netherlands

                    #10
                    BMW and Mercedes are much neater yes.

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                    • Fat Audi 80
                      Super Moderator
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 10547
                      • Country: England

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Error404
                      Some pics of the underside of Fatty's fuseboard


                      This makes me feel better - at least OEM is supposed to be a pig's ear

                      I'm not going to lie, I have considered depinning every connector and cutting the looms to the right size so it fits nice and neat.
                      Not going to though, I'm not that mental
                      And I thought someone had been in there and ****ed it up for me! It is normal after all.

                      Just put the lower cover back on and try to forget it. I know what you mean about having an OCD attack on it though!

                      Cheers,

                      Steve
                      The Perfectionist
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                      • newsh
                        S2Forum Obsessed
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 16226
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        Fatty's looks like heaven compared to mine, to add to the mess most of my cloth tape has fallen off, I've had several goes at it but made no significant improvement.

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                        • Sonic
                          Administrator
                          • Jul 2006
                          • 5514
                          • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

                          #13
                          Ugh what a nighmare, glad i'm not the only one that doesn't like going under the steering wheel!

                          It's always further complicated by some previous alarm/immobiliser installations that's hacked into a load of cables
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                          • Tonks4x4
                            Retired OG Mod
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 3062
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #14
                            Could not agree more to all of the above statements!!!!

                            Spent 12 hours on my back in the drivers footwell on Saturday and have got at least another day of it all day tomorrow. I have been replacing the cloth tape on each and every loom as mine has all gone dry and fell off!!!

                            and hopefully I will be able to re lay the looms around the footwell in some sort of order to make them as neat as I possibly can so that you don't need 8 hands to fit the panel back under the dashboard and have it looking like its bursting at the seems trying to spill wiring out from every join on the dash.....
                            Audi Nut!!!

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                            • UrS4boy
                              S2Forum Obsessed
                              • Feb 2006
                              • 11859
                              • Country: Canada

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Error404
                              Some pics of the underside of Fatty's fuseboard
                              http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showpos...0&postcount=26
                              I think Fatty was pointing with the wrong finger.

                              RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
                              94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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