Instrument Cluster Change PROBLEM

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  • Bullysteeth
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Jan 2012
    • 830
    • Country: England

    #1

    Instrument Cluster Change PROBLEM

    HI guys
    Sorry its not a S2 but it is a S4 b5
    I need to swap my clocks over, I have a replacement set that's all working unlike mine
    Now in the S4 the clocks are programed to the car and it will not run with the replacement fitted
    Can anyone help with this
    Thanks guys
  • Greg_S
    Administrator
    • Jul 2003
    • 12431
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    I expect you can recode with a vagcom. Probably worth checking in the Ross tech wiki
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    • M2ki
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      • Aug 2015
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      • Country: Estonia

      #3
      Immo is in the cluster, vagcom can't help you.
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      1994 Audi 80 Quattro Competition

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      • newsh
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        • Aug 2003
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        #4
        You can do some stuff in the cluster on vagcom, not sure what though

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        • M2ki
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          • Aug 2015
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          #5
          You need vag tacho or similar to read PIN from old and new cluster. After you have pin codes, then you can adapt with vag com / vcds.
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          1994 Audi 80 Quattro Competition

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          • Bullysteeth
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            • Jan 2012
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            #6
            Sounds hard guys

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            • LHD_Kid
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              • May 2006
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              #7
              The more modern the Audi.... the harder it gets...
              Honda CBR 1100XX Blackbird Turbo....undergoing major changes.....
              S2 Coupe... bit easier off the line...
              '03 ZX12-R daily hack.... lots of nice bolt ons...

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              • Audicted
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                • May 2004
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                #8
                Originally posted by LHD_Kid
                The more modern the Audi.... the harder it gets...
                This is the kind of stuff that makes me keep fixing my old cars

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                • NZSPQ
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                  • Jan 2010
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Bullysteeth
                  HI guys
                  Sorry its not a S2 but it is a S4 b5
                  I need to swap my clocks over, I have a replacement set that's all working unlike mine
                  Now in the S4 the clocks are programed to the car and it will not run with the replacement fitted
                  Can anyone help with this
                  Thanks guys
                  Hi,

                  if you can still get access to the orignal ecu (from the car the cluster came from, you can either swap out the ecu, or just desolder the immo chip from the matching ecu and solder into yours. Done it several times on ecu swaps..

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                  • M2ki
                    S2Forum Maniac
                    • Aug 2015
                    • 547
                    • Country: Estonia

                    #10
                    Originally posted by NZSPQ
                    Hi,

                    if you can still get access to the orignal ecu (from the car the cluster came from, you can either swap out the ecu, or just desolder the immo chip from the matching ecu and solder into yours. Done it several times on ecu swaps..
                    Ecu waits for a OK signal from immo (cluster), if you take immo and ecu from donor, then you need keys also (immo chip from fob) from the donor car.

                    If you are soldering stuff already, then it is easier to make immo off from ecu.


                    Ask help from somebody who has vag tacho and vcds cable and can use them.
                    1989 Audi 80 Quattro
                    1994 Audi 80 Quattro Competition

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                    • Bullysteeth
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                      • Jan 2012
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                      #11
                      Trying to find someone in the Midlands who can is proving a task in its self lol

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                      • Dynasty
                        S2Forum Fanatic
                        • Jan 2015
                        • 79
                        • Country: Norway

                        #12
                        Seach for vagtacho on eBay. On the older Audis the security pin followed the original keys (small label).

                        http://www.ebay.com/itm/Latest-Versi...YAAOSwJ4hY9B0c

                        The instruction on how to pair up the new cluster is found here: http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index...r_Generation_2
                        Last edited by Dynasty; 7 June 2017, 14:43.

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                        • Bullysteeth
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                          • Jan 2012
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                          #13
                          Thanks pal, its says in the tech that I need the four pin code from the new unit, That I don't have

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                          • M2ki
                            S2Forum Maniac
                            • Aug 2015
                            • 547
                            • Country: Estonia

                            #14
                            You use that same linked vag tacho cable and software to read pin from "new" cluster.

                            Also you need vag com / vcds to read coding info from old cluster and later use that info to code "new" cluster.
                            1989 Audi 80 Quattro
                            1994 Audi 80 Quattro Competition

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                            • Bullysteeth
                              S2Forum Maniac
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 830
                              • Country: England

                              #15
                              Thanks pal, I just need to find someone more pc literate than me lol

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