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  • GeorgeS2UK
    S2Forum Addict
    • Oct 2004
    • 225
    • Home: England

    #31
    Point taken,

    I guess I need to to remove the cams again to replace the pully.

    At least nobody has come back to me yet with possible extensive damage to valves ect..

    Thanks Guys

    Update tomorrow, or as soon as the new part is available
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    • GeorgeS2UK
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      • Oct 2004
      • 225
      • Home: England

      #32
      Not Good news

      Got both the top and the bottom of the engine turning freely, fitted the second cam wheel and timed everthing up.

      Car now wont Run on more than two cylinders, checked timing again and again, even removed the rocker again to check the cam chain timing, and all is well.

      Enginge just about runs but takes time to catch and coughs and backfires and not running on all cylinders

      Either i have got the timming wrong (but have checked and double checked)


      Any thoughts welcome
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      • DJones
        S2Forum Fiend
        • Jun 2005
        • 2020
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #33
        Sorry to butt in, i have been reading your thread with intrest, i am amazed that the dizzy cam gear snapped off. You need to carry out a compression test to eliminate any bent valves.

        Lets hope it is ok. after that it can only be a timming issue or bad plugs, leads etc but doubtful.

        Have you cleaned out the dizzy cap to ensure there is no tracking?

        Darren.
        Last edited by DJones; 17 July 2005, 00:07.

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        • ~Delta
          S2Forum Maniac
          • Apr 2005
          • 797

          #34
          ...Sounds like piston to valve contact. Never come accross the distributor drive cog coming off the cam. Did it shear off or come adrift? If I remember correctly, it's an interference fit.
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          • GeorgeS2UK
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            • Oct 2004
            • 225
            • Home: England

            #35
            Originally posted by ~Delta
            ...Sounds like piston to valve contact. Never come accross the distributor drive cog coming off the cam. Did it shear off or come adrift? If I remember correctly, it's an interference fit.

            The Cam Gear is part if the casting so I am assuming that the gear sheared off.
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            • GeorgeS2UK
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              • Oct 2004
              • 225
              • Home: England

              #36
              Originally posted by DJones
              Sorry to butt in, i have been reading your thread with intrest, i am amazed that the dizzy cam gear snapped off. You need to carry out a compression test to eliminate any bent valves.

              Lets hope it is ok. after that it can only be a timing issue or bad plugs, leads etc but doubtful.

              Have you cleaned out the dizzy cap to ensure there is no tracking?

              Darren.
              Dizzy cap looks clean, however I do have a new replacement that I will change to be on the safe side.

              I fear the same as you - that there Is a possibility if bent valves, a compression test would be the next step as I am sure that this is not a timing issue.
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              • GeorgeS2UK
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                • Oct 2004
                • 225
                • Home: England

                #37
                Had a quick quote today for Replacement Valve work

                Removal and Refit Head £250+ Parts

                Head work £700 + Parts

                Quoted by CC engine services (Clifford Cox Engineering) based in Reading



                Obviously until the head comes off it is very difficult to confirm all of the damage.
                91 S2 3B in Pearl, Miltek, De-Cat pipes, Short Shifter, 996 Monoblocks + 323 A8 Discs, Whiteline R-ARB:MRC Generic 3B Chips
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                • Sweeper
                  S2Forum Extremist
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 1317
                  • Country: Latvia

                  #38
                  In Latvia it costs 200$ for everything including new parts :>
                  Vadim.

                  New engine (mechanical PKM head) , Alcon 332mm brakes , Pauter rods , Mahle pistons, GT30R , kw v2 sucpension , new exhaust. 608HP. For SALE !

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                  • GeorgeS2UK
                    S2Forum Addict
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 225
                    • Home: England

                    #39
                    Compression Readings

                    Engine Cold (wont Run)

                    1 - 10.5
                    2 - 0
                    3 - 10.7
                    4 - 0
                    5 - 11

                    Well thats that then No.2 and No. 4n No compression at all.
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                    • GeorgeS2UK
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                      • Oct 2004
                      • 225
                      • Home: England

                      #40
                      Will this head fit

                      and can anyone translate for me please

                      E Bay Audi Cylinder Head

                      Or this one

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                      • porkkis
                        S2Forum Extremist
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 1994
                        • Country: Finland

                        #41
                        Both will fit. The first one seems to be an ABY head but marketed as ADU with ABY cams The cams are the only difference...

                        The second one would be more interesting personally, because I've dealt with figvanhingen few times and everything has been very smooth.

                        Notice that both of those could need an overhaul aswell.. even if the first is told to be overhauled..

                        Both are interesting if upgrading to direct ignition interests you as both are direct ignition model heads with hall sensor mounting behind the cam wheel.

                        Better to ask shipping cost beforehand "Wieviel sind die Versandkosten nach Grossbritannien?" or someting and prepare to pay in advance.
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                        • GeorgeS2UK
                          S2Forum Addict
                          • Oct 2004
                          • 225
                          • Home: England

                          #42
                          The Blonde is Back

                          The Blonde is Back (Pearl 3B)

                          2 months later, 3 weeks of hard work, 4 bent valves replaced, 20 stem seals, 20 valves ground in, head and associated gaskets, new head bolts, head studs for intake and exhaust manafold, water pump, crank pully and bolt, cam belt , cam cover, oil breather pipe, plugs, Dissy cap and leads.

                          New Tie rods, (easier to do when the head is off), new CV boots.

                          10w60, DOT 5.1, G12Plus, Hydrolic fluids.

                          New Apexi cone filter, 180 degree stainless steel bend, 100mm cold air feed, sounds brill and DV really whistles, still suffers from some heat soak in traffic though.


                          Small poblems

                          1. Tickover slightly high at 1000rpm
                          2. Cold start up needs a blip or two on the throttle.
                          3. Temp now always steady at 90 where i am sure that on a good steady run 70 degrees was normal.
                          4. Fan does not run on after ignition is swiched off.

                          Anyway glad shes back, best birthday present ever.

                          Ready for a Custom Chip soon.

                          George
                          91 S2 3B in Pearl, Miltek, De-Cat pipes, Short Shifter, 996 Monoblocks + 323 A8 Discs, Whiteline R-ARB:MRC Generic 3B Chips
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                          • quattronutter
                            S2Forum Maniac
                            • Jan 2005
                            • 690
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #43
                            nice one

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                            • Jamo
                              Retired OG Mod
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 21750
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #44
                              Originally posted by GeorgeS2UK
                              The Blonde is Back (Pearl 3B)

                              2 months later, 3 weeks of hard work, 4 bent valves replaced, 20 stem seals, 20 valves ground in, head and associated gaskets, new head bolts, head studs for intake and exhaust manafold, water pump, crank pully and bolt, cam belt , cam cover, oil breather pipe, plugs, Dissy cap and leads.

                              New Tie rods, (easier to do when the head is off), new CV boots.

                              10w60, DOT 5.1, G12Plus, Hydrolic fluids.

                              New Apexi cone filter, 180 degree stainless steel bend, 100mm cold air feed, sounds brill and DV really whistles, still suffers from some heat soak in traffic though.


                              Small poblems

                              1. Tickover slightly high at 1000rpm
                              2. Cold start up needs a blip or two on the throttle.
                              3. Temp now always steady at 90 where i am sure that on a good steady run 70 degrees was normal.
                              4. Fan does not run on after ignition is swiched off.

                              Anyway glad shes back, best birthday present ever.

                              Ready for a Custom Chip soon.

                              George
                              How much did this little lot set you back?

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                              • GeorgeS2UK
                                S2Forum Addict
                                • Oct 2004
                                • 225
                                • Home: England

                                #45
                                Parts £400

                                Labour £850

                                Lots of the work I did myself, but had the use of the Mechanics facilities, and he was doing the head/valve work ect.

                                The biggest part of the labour bill was stripping the car down, after 13 years of dirt and grim, hot and cold,some bolts had to be removed with heat and then tap and dyed

                                One bold on the exhaust down pipe took 4 hours to remove.

                                Howerver all are now replaced for new stainless steel bolts nuts washers where applicable so any future mods should be that much easier.

                                Total time 3 weeks.
                                91 S2 3B in Pearl, Miltek, De-Cat pipes, Short Shifter, 996 Monoblocks + 323 A8 Discs, Whiteline R-ARB:MRC Generic 3B Chips
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