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  • Greg_S
    Administrator
    • Jul 2003
    • 12430
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #16
    Charlie, if you do need a couple of senders I have some in the garage from when I rebuilt my engine
    Greg

    S2Forum.com Administrator & Webmaster

    '93 Coupe with a few tweeks

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    • charlie
      S2Forum Addict
      • Jan 2004
      • 447

      #17
      Originally posted by Greg_S
      Charlie, if you do need a couple of senders I have some in the garage from when I rebuilt my engine

      Greg You have PM.
      RS2 MTM

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      • Greg_S
        Administrator
        • Jul 2003
        • 12430
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #18
        good luck getting the car sorted, let me know if you do need them
        Greg

        S2Forum.com Administrator & Webmaster

        '93 Coupe with a few tweeks

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        • charlie
          S2Forum Addict
          • Jan 2004
          • 447

          #19
          Update

          Plugged in Vag-com

          FIRST CODE: 00513 ENGINE SPEED ON SIGNAL G28

          SECOND CODE: 00514 CRANKSHAFT SENSOR NO SIGNAL G54

          Removed crankshaft sensor which had some damage to cable with insulation
          stripped. P/N 034 905 381 A

          No more fault codes appeared.
          RS2 MTM

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          • dan_b
            S2Forum Possessed
            • Sep 2003
            • 3670
            • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

            #20
            Does the car turn over now those fault codes have gone?
            Ex S2 owner, now running around in an A4 Avant quattro...

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            • S2central.net
              Retired OG Mod
              • Jul 2003
              • 16590
              • Country: Northern Ireland

              #21
              Originally posted by charlie
              Plugged in Vag-com

              FIRST CODE: 00513 ENGINE SPEED ON SIGNAL G28

              SECOND CODE: 00514 CRANKSHAFT SENSOR NO SIGNAL G54

              Removed crankshaft sensor which had some damage to cable with insulation
              stripped. P/N 034 905 381 A

              No more fault codes appeared.
              I'm sure that G54 should be G4... If you are getting both these codes, then maybe G28 and G4 are indeed swapped. G4picks up the crank reference pins at 62 degrees BTDC #1 - telling the ECU where the crankshaft is. G28 counts flywheel teeth - telling the ECU how fast the crank is rotating.

              More info here - http://s2central.net/motronic_02.html

              Paul
              Paul Nugent
              Webmaster http://S2central.net
              Administrator http://S2forum.com

              1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
              2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
              2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

              Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

              There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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              • charlie
                S2Forum Addict
                • Jan 2004
                • 447

                #22
                Originally posted by dan_b
                Does the car turn over now those fault codes have gone?
                Car has always turned over but never fired.
                RS2 MTM

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                • S2central.net
                  Retired OG Mod
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 16590
                  • Country: Northern Ireland

                  #23
                  Have you tried swapping connectors for G4 and G28 yet ?

                  Have the fault codes all cleared now ?


                  Paul
                  Paul Nugent
                  Webmaster http://S2central.net
                  Administrator http://S2forum.com

                  1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                  2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                  2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                  Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

                  There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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                  • charlie
                    S2Forum Addict
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 447

                    #24
                    Originally posted by S2central.net
                    I'm sure that G54 should be G4... If you are getting both these codes, then maybe G28 and G4 are indeed swapped. G4picks up the crank reference pins at 62 degrees BTDC #1 - telling the ECU where the crankshaft is. G28 counts flywheel teeth - telling the ECU how fast the crank is rotating.

                    More info here - http://s2central.net/motronic_02.html

                    Paul

                    First code was the first interogation. I presumed this was a common fault
                    code as engine was not turning. Cleared this code. Do know how long this code
                    has been their cause last time i checked codes was about 8 months ago.

                    Second code was second interogation. only this code showed. removed
                    crankshaft sensor cleaned it, checked terminals, checked connectivity and
                    continuity/resistance.
                    This is when i noticed split in insulation and sheilding.

                    cleared ECU code, reassembled, turned over engine
                    and checked codes again .
                    Same code appeared and no other codes appeared.
                    Ordered a new sensor. will install tomorrow and see what happens.
                    RS2 MTM

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                    • charlie
                      S2Forum Addict
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 447

                      #25
                      Installed two new crankshaft sensors G4 & G28. No luck.
                      FUEL LINE PRESSURISING BUT NO INJECTOR PULSATING/FIRING
                      ALSO NO SPARK.
                      RS2 MTM

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                      • sal_s2
                        S2Forum Extremist
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 1287
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #26
                        Have you connected the two earth wires that attach to the inlet manifold?

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                        • charlie
                          S2Forum Addict
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 447

                          #27
                          Originally posted by sal_s2
                          Have you connected the two earth wires that attach to the inlet manifold?
                          Yes but will double check tommorrow.

                          What would stop spark plugs and injectors from not firing
                          RS2 MTM

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                          • S2central.net
                            Retired OG Mod
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 16590
                            • Country: Northern Ireland

                            #28
                            Originally posted by charlie
                            Yes but will double check tommorrow.

                            What would stop spark plugs and injectors from not firing
                            Assuming you have G4 & G28 wired to the correct plugs. You should also suspect -
                            G40 - the cam position sensor - this was discussed as well as G4 & G28...

                            A dead G40 means the engine cannot start...

                            Another suggestion - have you checked ALL the Motronic fuses ? You might have blown one when you had the wiring damage !


                            Paul
                            Paul Nugent
                            Webmaster http://S2central.net
                            Administrator http://S2forum.com

                            1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                            2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                            2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                            Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

                            There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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                            • charlie
                              S2Forum Addict
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 447

                              #29
                              Items Checked

                              1) Montronic Fuses Both Ok
                              2) All Earth Straps Cleaned,replaced & Tested With Voltmeter
                              3) All Conectors At Bulkhead, Cleaned And Checked Pins
                              4) Fuel Injector Wire Have 0.3 Volts Pd But No Negative
                              Pulse To Trigger Injectors
                              5) Coil Pack Has 12volts Pd Supply On Yellow Wires
                              And Earth Is Good On Casing Cover
                              6) The 3 Wires That Connect To Camshaft Sensor Have
                              5 Volts, 4.88 Vlots & 0.13 Volts Pd Between Them


                              Please Can Anyone Measure And Tell The Resitance Between
                              The 3 Wires To The Camshaft Sensor (hall Sender)
                              Mine Is Showing Infinate Resistance As In No Connection
                              Between All 3 Wires. Normally 2 Show Some High Resistace And
                              1 Infinate.

                              Pd = Potential Difference.

                              Last edited by charlie; 18 December 2005, 11:30.
                              RS2 MTM

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                              • charlie
                                S2Forum Addict
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 447

                                #30
                                Last edited by charlie; 18 December 2005, 13:09.
                                RS2 MTM

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