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  • olsonjus
    S2Forum Addict
    • Dec 2003
    • 293
    • Country: United States

    #61
    I'm getting a set of stroker pistons as well, so those will be included in the GB. Coatings are extra, but can be had if specified. I will get prices on them today.

    The JE vendor this is being run through is a big audi/vw engine builder, and the JE's he sells have no issues with thin aluminum around the valve reliefs.

    Regards,
    Justin

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    • Mark Halligan
      S2Forum Fiend
      • Jul 2003
      • 2001
      • Country: England

      #62
      Originally posted by Billman
      @Mark

      Where is the problem point of Je's valve pockets! I have heard that some people had problems with them!
      Yes I did have a problem with burning out the thin metal around the pockets on two pistons due to detonation, don't know if its happened to anyone else.

      In the next set I just asked JE to mill that area away, like OEM pistons, as in the pic I posted above.

      They did no problem, no extra cost, and it makes the pistons a touch lighter too.
      Mark - Modded

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      • Billman
        S2Forum Freak
        • Nov 2004
        • 4129

        #63
        Originally posted by olsonjus
        I'm getting a set of stroker pistons as well, so those will be included in the GB. Coatings are extra, but can be had if specified. I will get prices on them today.

        The JE vendor this is being run through is a big audi/vw engine builder, and the JE's he sells have no issues with thin aluminum around the valve reliefs.

        Regards,
        Justin
        Can we also make a group buy for the Summer time! Due to the Rods Group Buy i am short of car-project - and overall money!
        Go Holset or Go RS4

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        • olsonjus
          S2Forum Addict
          • Dec 2003
          • 293
          • Country: United States

          #64
          I spoke with the pistons vendor today. We'll see when we get all of the people interested.

          We have a few options available:

          MTE(teflon) skirt coating: $88

          FSR Strutted Piston & Heavy Duty Wrist Pin: $200

          Regards,
          Justin

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          • olsonjus
            S2Forum Addict
            • Dec 2003
            • 293
            • Country: United States

            #65
            "Justin,
            I like the FSR strutted / slipper skirt pistons. They are a nice piece and work well on boosted engines that see high rpm use. This allows a shorter wrist pin and gives a weight savings in most cases. Without the barrel skirt, some people feel that it will rock more in the bore, it is all opinion. I strongly suggest thermal and dry -film/teflon coating the pistons to give your engine a better advantage against wear and help free up the engine. I have the FSR's in my own personal engine (without coatings) and will be building a second motor in the future to replace it with coatings on bearings, journals, pistons and so on to see what difference it actually makes in power output (I have a company that will coat the parts for me free of charge for testing). The only other thing that some people choose to question is the lock design (spiral, wire or tru-arc). I have used all three. I do like the simplicity of the tru-arcs, but fell the spiral locks are the best insurance for preventing failure, but are a bitch to remove if the time comes (but I do have a nice tool for removing them).
            Sincerely,
            Rodney Huss

            704-864-1995"

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            • Billman
              S2Forum Freak
              • Nov 2004
              • 4129

              #66
              Pisobiker in his project had Moly coating on the Skirt and Ceramic on top! For what are these good?
              Go Holset or Go RS4

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              • slow2
                S2Forum Addict
                • Apr 2004
                • 238
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #67
                Short version

                Moly coating on the Skirt= helps to lower friction between piston and cylinder bores

                Ceramic on top!= helps with thermal protection of piston crown
                Dez

                Never did overtime until i purchased........s2

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                • olsonjus
                  S2Forum Addict
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 293
                  • Country: United States

                  #68
                  Here is the link to JE's catalog. Download it and check it out.

                  Regards,
                  Justin

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                  • olsonjus
                    S2Forum Addict
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 293
                    • Country: United States

                    #69
                    http://www.jepistons.com/pdf/2006-sportcomp.pdf

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                    • AnLe
                      S2Forum Addict
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 291
                      • Country: Finland

                      #70
                      have you seen orginal rs4 piston, it has very short pin, seems very nice idea to shorten the pin.

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                      • martinjs
                        S2Forum Possessed
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 3205
                        • Country: England

                        #71
                        At what power level is it advisable to go with a bigger diameter wrist pin?

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                        • AnLe
                          S2Forum Addict
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 291
                          • Country: Finland

                          #72
                          if custom piston is needed - bigger pin is needed ? even if it is not nessesary at time of installation, it leaves room to update, becouse its never enough

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                          • olsonjus
                            S2Forum Addict
                            • Dec 2003
                            • 293
                            • Country: United States

                            #73
                            People are making 200hp per cylinder on 20mm pins. I'm not sure that you need to go up a size. Thats just my opinion tho. On my motor I'm going to a 21mm pin because pauter already makes 159mm rods made for a 21mm pin.

                            Regards,
                            Justin

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                            • Billman
                              S2Forum Freak
                              • Nov 2004
                              • 4129

                              #74
                              i am going for a 23mm Pin ! Hope its not going to be tooo bulky and heavy! Sure its going to hold some power!
                              Go Holset or Go RS4

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                              • olsonjus
                                S2Forum Addict
                                • Dec 2003
                                • 293
                                • Country: United States

                                #75
                                The weight of the pin will go up, but it should be fine. You'll be set to run methanol and 50psi

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