Gtx3582 gen2 low on power?

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  • Thuppu
    S2Forum Freak
    • Sep 2010
    • 4115
    • Country: Finland

    #31
    Originally posted by s2dk
    vems1.jpgvems2.jpg this is my lamdba target map and my ign map..
    Seems that you have a value wrong there in the lambda table... 2800, 4100, 1300(?), 6100, 6700

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    • Jonas_R
      S2Forum Possessed
      • Jan 2004
      • 3780
      • Country: Denmark

      #32
      Who is the tuner?
      Sleeper S2 Avant +450

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      • s2dk
        S2Forum Maniac
        • Jul 2016
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        #33
        Lol did not see that. It must be a typeo very good eye thuppu

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        • Acki
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          • Mar 2014
          • 302
          • Country: Germany

          #34
          Originally posted by diesel des
          Have you any examples of what timing numbers you would run?
          You test it on the dyno.
          Normal procedure is to run a variation of ignition at constant boost and fuel and then same for fuel (ignition constant) and for boost etc. pp.
          Then you see which setting brings the most power.

          When you tune the engine the first time it needs some more time of course...​​​​

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          • momento1
            S2Forum Addict
            • Mar 2011
            • 358
            • Country: Australia

            #35
            power definitely seems low....

            My setup is almost the same as yours, except im running mild Catcams and E85 fuel

            i managed 665hp at the wheels (so approx 780hp + engine)
            but im running 2.6bar
            i will see if i can post the dyno graph
            Current:
            1993 Audi S2 Kingfisher Blue - GTX3582r w/ E85 = 430kw atw

            Past:
            2002 Audi S4 Nogaro Blue Stage 3+ - 250kw+ atw
            2001 Audi S3 Silver - 169kw+ atw

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            • momento1
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              • Mar 2011
              • 358
              • Country: Australia

              #36
              Originally posted by momento1
              power definitely seems low....

              My setup is almost the same as yours, except im running mild Catcams and E85 fuel

              i managed 665hp at the wheels (so approx 780hp + engine)
              but im running 2.6bar
              i will see if i can post the dyno graph
              Dyno plot is power at the wheels
              It shows power curve and boost curve of 2.65bar or 36psi. It creeps up a bit towards the end.
              Current:
              1993 Audi S2 Kingfisher Blue - GTX3582r w/ E85 = 430kw atw

              Past:
              2002 Audi S4 Nogaro Blue Stage 3+ - 250kw+ atw
              2001 Audi S3 Silver - 169kw+ atw

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              • Nuno_Cristiano
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                • Dec 2015
                • 77
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #37
                Good graph!
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                • Error404
                  Super Moderator
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 19789
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #38
                  Nice indeed, but little point in comparing an E85 tune to a pump gas tune
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                  • s2dk
                    S2Forum Maniac
                    • Jul 2016
                    • 507
                    • Country: Denmark

                    #39
                    Allso even the mildes catcams is way better than aby Stock cams

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                    • A80Avant
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                      • Sep 2005
                      • 10873
                      • Country: Greece

                      #40
                      I'd say cams but more importantly e85 can easily give you +100hp. No point in comparing.

                      To me given the timing and fueling the power it made is easily explained. Another cheaper solution is to add watermeth but with all the necessary safety features and thus be able to improve the timing a bit
                      Last edited by A80Avant; 5 May 2018, 14:37.

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                      • prj
                        S2Forum Zealot
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 6308
                        • Country: Estonia

                        #41
                        Ok let me put it less sensitive.
                        Those maps look like they were done by a monkey, not a tuner. Only WOT was "tuned", then random values inserted everywhere else and interpolated.

                        Guess that those who don't do this every day don't have an eye for these things, but this made me throw up in my mouth.
                        Hence my recommendation, go to someone who has actually experience with these engines.... and will actually tune the **** ecu you have (but that's another topic ).
                        http://tuner.ee - http://www.facebook.com/tuner.ee

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                        • Error404
                          Super Moderator
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 19789
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #42
                          Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
                          Indigo ABY coupé
                          Imola B6 S4 Avant

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                          • Thuppu
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                            • Sep 2010
                            • 4115
                            • Country: Finland

                            #43


                            Out of interest, Dmitri, how much vomit does this ign table bring to your mouth?




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                            • A80Avant
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                              • Sep 2005
                              • 10873
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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Thuppu


                              Out of interest, Dmitri, how much vomit does this ign table bring to your mouth?


                              That looks more like drawing with colours, looks nice for a 5 year old!

                              Common Dmitri, all ecu can do the basics right so long as they are tuned!

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                              • s2dk
                                S2Forum Maniac
                                • Jul 2016
                                • 507
                                • Country: Denmark

                                #45
                                I have No idea about how good or bad the tune is. But it is true my tuner dosent Do alot of this engines

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