650 bhp Build

[prj]

Hmm, I see little hostility in Dmitris messages these days.. Maybe because this isn't a hobby for him anymore?

Forgot about the clutch, basic SRE with sinter disc will do and proper single mass flywheel(maybe these already are in use in the 400hp setup?) For 1/4 mile dragrace the rear driveshafts are weak, but they will be fine on trackdays. On dragrace stock brakes could be ok, but on track not. Everything depends on what you will do with the car.

Not hostility but this stuff makes me shake my head, also because I have some experience with subject matter and how much it costs in the end
I have a 2.2T 200V for full restoration and build in the shop, and even the suspension had to be custom made in Germany by KW. But then again it is the complete opposite of a ghetto project.

[Rikki Kitto]

Nice if you have the cash but sometimes peeps just have to do the best with what they've got

[bernsaudi]

could just buy my old fiver?

I would sell my house, or *** for one of your cars

[PRY4SNO]

2.5L forged stroker, balanced
EFR 7163 is a 60#/min turbo, an EFR 8374 is good for 79#/min.
Standalone, solid base map that gets dialed in on a dyno (on pump fuel).

Either of the above turbos should be good for a very broad power band, 4000 rpm or more of big power/boost range.

Spend your initial funds on the internal stuff that's more difficult to access down the road. The rest you can bolt on as things wear out or can't keep pace.

[Thuppu]

Some idea of prices, at least what we have here and can get... rougly. Just for engine and can be missing something...

Forged pistons ~800e
Forged rods ~400e
Rod sputter bearings ~100e
Main bearings ~30e
Head gasket set ~160e
Block gasket set ~50e
Turbo ~1000e
Turbo oil/cooling hoses ~150e
Exhaust manifold ~500e
7A cams ~300e
New INA lifters ~80e
Stiffer valve spring kit ~250e
Timing belt kit ~ 50e
Water pump ~ 50e
Cam chain ~ 15e
Stand alone ECU ~1200e
Exhaust ~1000e
Clutch and flywheel ~1200e
Coil packs ~200e
Coil harness ~200e
Spark plugs ~60e
Some other small things like sensors, gauges, connectors, bungs etc.. ~500e

Machining prices (these can vary quite heavily on where they are done)

Cylinder boring ~260e
Block skimming ~50e
Head skimming ~50e
Valve guide job ~300e
Crank balancing ~350e
Head porting ~500e

And of course you will lost a huge amount of money if the engine is assembled by some machine shop. About the parts, the more you buy at ones the bigger discount you can get. Also used parts can be good in some cases, like flywheel, manifold, turbo, ecu... Also many parts can be found cheaper if you have time to search and buy from other places.

[montyrs2]

2.5L forged stroker, balanced
EFR 7163 is a 60#/min turbo, an EFR 8374 is good for 79#/min.
Standalone, solid base map that gets dialed in on a dyno (on pump fuel).

Either of the above turbos should be good for a very broad power band, 4000 rpm or more of big power/boost range.

Spend your initial funds on the internal stuff that's more difficult to access down the road. The rest you can bolt on as things wear out or can't keep pace.

What sort of figures does this give for torque and power?

[montyrs2]

Some idea of prices, at least what we have here and can get... rougly. Just for engine and can be missing something...

Forged pistons ~800e
Forged rods ~400e
Rod sputter bearings ~100e
Main bearings ~30e
Head gasket set ~160e
Block gasket set ~50e
Turbo ~1000e
Turbo oil/cooling hoses ~150e
Exhaust manifold ~500e
7A cams ~300e
New INA lifters ~80e
Stiffer valve spring kit ~250e
Timing belt kit ~ 50e
Water pump ~ 50e
Cam chain ~ 15e
Stand alone ECU ~1200e
Exhaust ~1000e
Clutch and flywheel ~1200e
Coil packs ~200e
Coil harness ~200e
Spark plugs ~60e
Some other small things like sensors, gauges, connectors, bungs etc.. ~500e

Machining prices (these can vary quite heavily on where they are done)

Cylinder boring ~260e
Block skimming ~50e
Head skimming ~50e
Valve guide job ~300e
Crank balancing ~350e
Head porting ~500e

And of course you will lost a huge amount of money if the engine is assembled by some machine shop. About the parts, the more you buy at ones the bigger discount you can get. Also used parts can be good in some cases, like flywheel, manifold, turbo, ecu... Also many parts can be found cheaper if you have time to search and buy from other places.

Do you have links to where you can buy this from?

[PRY4SNO]

What sort of figures does this give for torque and power?

Here's one guy's build... shows you can make good power without building a stroker:

http://www.theprojectpad.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1956

[Thuppu]

Do you have links to where you can buy this from?

Here is a couple:

Motorsport parts: https://fcp-engineering.com/en/

Basic spare parts: https://spareto.com/

[Tractor Dave]

Are Spareto any good? They have the clutch kit listed which I haven't been able to find anywhere else!

[Vorsprung durch Technik]

Are Spareto any good? They have the clutch kit listed which I haven't been able to find anywhere else!

I think they are.

[Tractor Dave]

I think they are.

Gone for it then. They say 28 days, lets see

[jsws3]

I have these for sale if your intrested mate
head sold last night .

[diesel des]

Pm sent

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[montyrs2]

Here is a couple:

Motorsport parts: https://fcp-engineering.com/en/

Basic spare parts: https://spareto.com/

Good stuff, I like the look of the FCP engineering stuff. Looks like i'm leaning towards the stroker route, but not fully sorted yet