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  • terrybullwon
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Mar 2006
    • 8782
    • Country: England

    #1

    Faliure to start

    Really dont know whats got into my car of late.

    Turn the key nothing happens,

    Autocheck on, ok.
    Fuses checked
    Ecu clicks as it should
    Fuel pumps been replaced with a 044 motorsport jobby and works fine
    No fault codes on the vag com?

    Where do i go next?

    It work fine just 3 hours before

    Cheers James
    Chef
  • DJones
    S2Forum Fiend
    • Jun 2005
    • 2020
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    Sounds a bit like a starter solenoid problem... try tapping it while someone turns the key.

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    • terrybullwon
      S2Forum Zealot
      • Mar 2006
      • 8782
      • Country: England

      #3
      update,
      you can turn the ignition off and take the key out and the lights and auto check will stay on

      Thanks DJones i will give that ago
      Chef

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      • topsparky
        S2Forum Fiend
        • Oct 2005
        • 2014
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #4
        sounds like the ignition switch to me
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        4. BILSTEIN SHOXS
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        • john881000
          S2Forum Maniac
          • May 2004
          • 598
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #5
          hi James

          try the ignition switch.....the plastic electrical part in the igntion switch
          it cracks makes doggy contacts...................
          remove dash cluster
          remove big plug at reat of ignition switch
          small flat bladed screw driver remove 2 small grub scews...might be under paint
          care fully remove switch...............old one is white....newer type black


          cheers
          john

          there are two types avaible

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          • terrybullwon
            S2Forum Zealot
            • Mar 2006
            • 8782
            • Country: England

            #6
            this has some thing to do with this bloody after market thing some **** put in theres a wire that dosent go any where

            I will take some pictures
            Chef

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            • LHD_Kid
              S2Forum Possessed
              • May 2006
              • 3696
              • Home: England Current: Belgium

              #7
              being a 3B, I was going to ask if there was an aftermarket alarm / immobiliser fitted, if it has, it sounds like that might be the problem, starting circuit / fuel pump being the usual 2 circuits...
              Honda CBR 1100XX Blackbird Turbo....undergoing major changes.....
              S2 Coupe... bit easier off the line...
              '03 ZX12-R daily hack.... lots of nice bolt ons...

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              • terrybullwon
                S2Forum Zealot
                • Mar 2006
                • 8782
                • Country: England

                #8
                This is such a bodge, the pictures just dont show how shocking it is

                Where to start

                Into the back of the ignition barrel is three scruffy tapped wires.
                Over the very back through the looms etc is two red wires tapped into a connection that seems to be up right

                But one of the ones that comes back is not connected to any thing

                This system seems to work as you turn the car off at over 90degs the engine will run and when you shut the door it will stop (pretty **** if you ask me)


                Chef

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                • terrybullwon
                  S2Forum Zealot
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 8782
                  • Country: England

                  #9
                  more pictures

                  any one know if this should be connected?





                  And the two brown wires from the ignition block

                  Chef

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                  • 4WheelDrifter
                    S2Forum Zealot
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 5773
                    • Country: Devon

                    #10
                    I can see a problem in the second picture, a scotchlok.
                    It looks like you have some tidying up to do James.
                    SS

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                    • terrybullwon
                      S2Forum Zealot
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 8782
                      • Country: England

                      #11
                      Yeah its a butchers Job with out a doubt
                      Theres a cable that was to short so they put a conection in to make it longer

                      Need a new switch i think though, as the ignition stays on with out the key in
                      Chef

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                      • newsh
                        S2Forum Obsessed
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 16226
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        Originally posted by terrybullwon
                        Yeah its a butchers Job with out a doubt
                        Theres a cable that was to short so they put a conection in to make it longer

                        Need a new switch i think though, as the ignition stays on with out the key in
                        Mine was like that when I first looked behind the dash, all started when I lost my keys with the immob chip on them out of my rucksack when out on the bike . I removed several kilos of wiring from many alarms and immobilisers, found a spare key under the ashtray though .. Alarms I hate em.

                        Removed in one session...

                        Last edited by newsh; 4 February 2007, 19:55.

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                        • newsh
                          S2Forum Obsessed
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 16226
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #13
                          Get yourself a new switch, its a common failure, some say they fail sooner if you have a heavy bunch of keys hanging off the lock..

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                          • terrybullwon
                            S2Forum Zealot
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 8782
                            • Country: England

                            #14
                            Looks like enough wires and boxes to alarm a nucular submarine

                            I will give a new switch ago, can any one check that this is the right part number?

                            4A0 905 849

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                            • Nuvo
                              S2Forum Possessed
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 3825

                              #15
                              Originally posted by 4WheelDrifter
                              I can see a problem in the second picture, a scotchlok.
                              Hi, I just wanted to ask what is wrong with the use of scotlok connectors? Aren't these reliable for making taps/splices or...?

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