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  • kwlw
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Sep 2004
    • 1025
    • Country: Lithuania

    #61
    Originally posted by Corey
    Car has been remapped to allow for the different MAF location and the car doesn't stall anymore, sorry for not updating we have been busy moving this week and our time on the forum has been limited to (very) early mornings and (very) late into the evenings.
    Will you heat shield true MAF anyhow? Or just leave it as it is in the picture? Maybe I'm paranoic, but now I always put finger to check how hot aluminium part of the map is. If it's too hot for finger (60+ C), then it's too hot for chips inside.

    Sau
    200 20vt 88' 3b, human carrier
    CQ typ85 with AAN inside, see project blog at http://kwlw.blogspot.com

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    • kjetil fykse
      S2Forum Tinkerer
      • Jan 2004
      • 5
      • Home: Norway

      #62
      Originally posted by Jon441cc
      Good work Corey, what did you you have to change on the map to convert it ?
      I was wondering the same.
      kjetil

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      • Jamo
        Retired OG Mod
        • Mar 2004
        • 21750
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #63
        I seriously doubt that the detailed techincal information would be released to the forum regarding the mapping it is their work after all.

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        • Jay
          S2Forum Maniac
          • Jul 2004
          • 599

          #64
          wow

          Jamo I find your new avatar strangley hipnotic

          Jay

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          • Corey
            Banned
            • Sep 2003
            • 2793
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #65
            Originally posted by Jamo
            I seriously doubt that the detailed techincal information would be released to the forum regarding the mapping it is their work after all.
            It's that technical even I don't understand it

            Corey
            01636 822288

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            • Markarina
              S2Forum Maniac
              • Mar 2006
              • 511
              • Home: United Kingdom Current: Switzerland

              #66
              okay probably a dumb question, brain finally kicking and remembering back to when I was actually writing engine management software, is their any reason why this problem cannot be fixed by changing the ORFCO map without having to re-site the MAF ?

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              • A1QSHIP
                S2Forum Maniac
                • Aug 2004
                • 975
                • Country: United States

                #67
                Originally posted by Jay
                Jamo I find your new avatar strangley hipnotic

                Jay
                Like a couple of puppies playing in a pillowcase.
                "Nulla tenaci invia est via"

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                • S2_Dave
                  S2Forum Addict
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 456
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #68
                  Originally posted by Markarina
                  okay probably a dumb question, brain finally kicking and remembering back to when I was actually writing engine management software, is their any reason why this problem cannot be fixed by changing the ORFCO map without having to re-site the MAF ?
                  What's the ORFCO map?
                  David

                  '91 3B S2 Coupe

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                  • Mihnea
                    S2Forum Extremist
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 1288
                    • Home: Belgium Current: United Kingdom

                    #69
                    Never heard of an ORFCO map on any Bosch motronic box ever, are you sure this isn't something only used on Ford ECUs? EEC-IV or whatever they are...

                    Originally posted by Markarina
                    okay probably a dumb question, brain finally kicking and remembering back to when I was actually writing engine management software, is their any reason why this problem cannot be fixed by changing the ORFCO map without having to re-site the MAF ?
                    '98 Silver Grey 2.7T S4, dual 2.75" turbo back exhaust with no cats, FMIC, BIG injectors, 10 Bar motorsport fuel pump, modded RS4 turbos, tubular exhaust manifolds, custom intakes, RS4 MAF, Bilstein PSS9, H&R ARBs, 19" BBS CH, custom remap, 511 BHP/505ft-lbs

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                    • Mihnea
                      S2Forum Extremist
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 1288
                      • Home: Belgium Current: United Kingdom

                      #70
                      BTW Corey, I thought the initial stalling issue was long fixed by some miraculous software that you catered for, and that my software was causing it???? Funny eh?
                      '98 Silver Grey 2.7T S4, dual 2.75" turbo back exhaust with no cats, FMIC, BIG injectors, 10 Bar motorsport fuel pump, modded RS4 turbos, tubular exhaust manifolds, custom intakes, RS4 MAF, Bilstein PSS9, H&R ARBs, 19" BBS CH, custom remap, 511 BHP/505ft-lbs

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                      • Corey
                        Banned
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 2793
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #71
                        Originally posted by Mihnea
                        BTW Corey, I thought the initial stalling issue was long fixed by some miraculous software that you catered for, and that my software was causing it???? Funny eh?
                        Hi, Well the Coupe has had quite the overhaul; spec roughly as follows: Rebuild w/ forged rods, RS2 head-gasket, RS2-EM, RS2-IC 37lb injectors, 4.2bar FPR GT3071-R MRC remapped by Mihnea (996 brakes and uprated suspension of course!) I've updated this thread on the S2 forum, from page 4...


                        You mean this thread? I don't actually think I said anywhere that your software was causing the stalling, merely the car had an issue.
                        Yet again you seem to be determined to drive a wedge between us two, I cannot see your logic but whatever
                        Corey
                        01636 822288

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                        • Markarina
                          S2Forum Maniac
                          • Mar 2006
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                          #72
                          Originally posted by Mihnea
                          Never heard of an ORFCO map on any Bosch motronic box ever, are you sure this isn't something only used on Ford ECUs? EEC-IV or whatever they are...
                          Would have to admit I'm not an expert on Bosch ECU's so couldn't comment on whether an ORFCO map is present, but I suspect that their must be either an ORFCO or deccel fuel map otherwise we would have flame throwers for exhausts, unfortunately my Bosch blue book is in the office and I am stuck at home for the time being so I can't check up on Bosch's thinking.

                          ORFCO = OverRun Fuel Cut-Off

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                          • Mihnea
                            S2Forum Extremist
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 1288
                            • Home: Belgium Current: United Kingdom

                            #73
                            ORFCO in Bosch speak for the S2 is called TLSN or tl schwelle für schubabschalten. Or load threshold for deceleration cut off in simple terms.

                            Corey, I thought I had understood that the software you got on that particular car fixed the stalling issue, nothing more. If I understood it wrong, then great. Nothing more, nothing less.
                            '98 Silver Grey 2.7T S4, dual 2.75" turbo back exhaust with no cats, FMIC, BIG injectors, 10 Bar motorsport fuel pump, modded RS4 turbos, tubular exhaust manifolds, custom intakes, RS4 MAF, Bilstein PSS9, H&R ARBs, 19" BBS CH, custom remap, 511 BHP/505ft-lbs

                            www.MRCTuning.com
                            info@MRCTuning.com
                            Workshop Directions

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                            • S2_Dave
                              S2Forum Addict
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 456
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #74
                              Software alone wouldn't fix it - it even had a standard ECU in temporarily as a test. With the MAF moved to the pressure side it hasn't stalled once since. I did blow a hose off the exit side of the MAF last week though. I need to somehow hold the two hoses either side from pulling away from each other. Having said that, the hose hasn't come of again and it's been pushed hard since.
                              David

                              '91 3B S2 Coupe

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                              • Corey
                                Banned
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 2793
                                • Country: United Kingdom

                                #75
                                Originally posted by S2_Dave
                                Software alone wouldn't fix it - it even had a standard ECU in temporarily as a test. With the MAF moved to the pressure side it hasn't stalled once since. I did blow a hose off the exit side of the MAF last week though. I need to somehow hold the two hoses either side from pulling away from each other. Having said that, the hose hasn't come of again and it's been pushed hard since.
                                When she is next in Dave we will machine some grooves onto the areas where the hoses sit so it gives a bit of bite.
                                Corey
                                01636 822288

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