removing dizzy - turning engine to mark?

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  • twoqu
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    • Sep 2003
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    #91
    I was going to suggest turning the dizzy body whilst cranking but if the coil isn't being switched, i.e no spark, then I'm not sure what it will accomplish.
    Same lesson as before. Be methodical and systematic. Don't assume things are right, double check.

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    • twoqu
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      • Sep 2003
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      #92
      Ok! If you were frightened by the pin, be afraid, very afraid!

      We have to consider this especially as it explains why the hall sender is being flagged up. This damage is common especially if in the cars past the correct tools have not been used to undo the pulley.
      Don't get too bogged down in the traces, but read between the lines. Car doesent start as the sensors are out of alignment.
      Last edited by twoqu; 1 June 2007, 14:53.

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      • Nj
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        • Jan 2007
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        #93
        i've read that before but i've just re-read it with more understanding.
        Do you know which aperture underneath that the mark on the flywheel should be lining up with? there's more than one gap that you can see the flywheel through.
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        1990 CQ20v
        2001 3.0 B6 A4 Avant Quattro Sport

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        • twoqu
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          • Sep 2003
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          #94
          Stu has provided a good shot of that earlier in the thread.

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          • Nj
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            • Jan 2007
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            #95
            I must be a bit stupid cos I have the pics printed out and couldn't find the O shape hole. Just a couple of D shaped gaps at the join. I'll go home again and lie under the car with the torch. I lined the other marks up and assumed (what is it they say about assumption?) that the flywheel mark would be lined up by default. oh-oh.
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            1990 CQ20v
            2001 3.0 B6 A4 Avant Quattro Sport

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            • twoqu
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              • Sep 2003
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              #96
              No! The flywheel aperature is visible from inside the engine bay above the timing senders, towards the top of the block. Not underneath the car!
              Use the bolt hole as a reference from Stu's pic!
              You should be able to identify it from the projection used as the timing mark.

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              • Nj
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                • Jan 2007
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                #97
                ah - that would explain.

                hmmm.. why don't i fall over more?
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                1990 CQ20v
                2001 3.0 B6 A4 Avant Quattro Sport

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                • newsh
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                  • Aug 2003
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                  #98
                  Its not a good idea to spin it over and twist the dizzy, apart from getting about 20,000 volts up your arm, you can bend a rod.. Just set everything to the marks properly as described starting with the O in the bell housing upper window then making sure the cam sprocket is right (if not its another complete turn of the crank) then the dizzy. There is no tolerance on the dizzy setting, it has to be absolutely spot on. When you've set it, nip it up, then roll the car back in a high gear then roll it forward slowly untill the marks line up and check it again.

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                  • martinjs
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                    • Jul 2003
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by newsh
                    Its not a good idea to spin it over and twist the dizzy, apart from getting about 20,000 volts up your arm, you can bend a rod.. Just set everything to the marks properly as described starting with the O in the bell housing upper window then making sure the cam sprocket is right (if not its another complete turn of the crank) then the dizzy. There is no tolerance on the dizzy setting, it has to be absolutely spot on. When you've set it, nip it up, then roll the car back in a high gear then roll it forward slowly untill the marks line up and check it again.
                    I agree.

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                    • Nj
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                      • Jan 2007
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                      #100
                      It's aliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiive!!!!!!!!!!!!



                      well as much as I fiddled with the dizzy I got from Probe I couldn't get it to start. I had assumed this would be the same with the dizzy I got from Sal the other day but.. I was wrong. I lined up all the timing marks to be sure all was OK (flywheel mark was fine) and since that was all good I tried turning the dizzy slightly while my mate turned it over (not actually at the same time. was planning to turn a bit, let him turn the ignition, turn it a bit.....) only took about 5 degrees. Can't believe it. The other dizzy is going back to Probe for a refund. What a load of messing about.

                      What a sweet, sweet sound to hear that 5 pot grumble through the silly big straight through that currently takes the place of a back box.

                      Thanks for all your help lads. Hopefully my future threads aren't so big. Now on to sorting the rest of the car

                      cheers
                      Nj
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                      1990 CQ20v
                      2001 3.0 B6 A4 Avant Quattro Sport

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                      • Knight Rider S4
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                        • Mar 2005
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                        #101
                        Excellent news Nj .....glad to hear she is running again..now for the body work ah!!!
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                        • 4WheelDrifter
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                          • Oct 2004
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                          #102
                          He got there in the end.
                          That looks like quite a savage spark mind. What coil are you using?
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                          • Nj
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                            • Jan 2007
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                            #103
                            haha. cheers lads.
                            yeah that's a bit of custom electrical work. it's experimental but i'm OK if I wear my wellies and outrun the rain.

                            next steps - fix the bodywork, the wee niggles here and there... and then investigate increasing the bhp. as seems to be a key topic on here.
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                            1990 CQ20v
                            2001 3.0 B6 A4 Avant Quattro Sport

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                            • s2dude
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                              • Nov 2005
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                              #104
                              Originally posted by fourcircle
                              haha. cheers lads.
                              yeah that's a bit of custom electrical work. it's experimental but i'm OK if I wear my wellies and outrun the rain.

                              next steps - fix the bodywork, the wee niggles here and there... and then investigate increasing the bhp. as seems to be a key topic on here.
                              Great news
                              Just goes to show though...OEM is often the cheapest solution in the long run

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                              • BRY
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                                #105
                                Glad that spot of advice worked for you, and you didn't manage to get entangled.
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                                England must be a Country. :mischeif:

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