New turbo fitted, howto get oil to it on the first start up?

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  • Jonas_R
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    • Jan 2004
    • 3781
    • Country: Denmark

    #1

    New turbo fitted, howto get oil to it on the first start up?

    Well,

    I have changed my turbo and now iam going to change the oil to.

    But do I need to do something to get oil into the turbo? Or can I just start the car up?

    I dont want to break the turbo, I guess it uses the oil as a lubrican.

    /Jonas R.
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  • Donker
    S2Forum Enthusiast
    • Nov 2006
    • 119
    • Country: Sweden

    #2
    Is it not possible to pull the engine around by hand and thereby pumping oil through the system? I can't say for certain that it's possible, but that would be the first thing I'd consider.
    S2 sold.

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    • Jonas_R
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      • Jan 2004
      • 3781
      • Country: Denmark

      #3
      Yeah I guess that would be a good idea, would be kinda sucks to ruin the turbo.

      /Jonas R.
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      • Animal Mother
        S2Forum Extremist
        • Jul 2007
        • 1135
        • Country: England

        #4
        Get someone to tow you around for a bit in 4th, 5th or 6th gear if you are that worried. I am sure it would be ok cold starting with a new turbo, I am sure someone here will give you a more precise answer.
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        • Slim m
          S2Forum Enthusiast
          • Jun 2006
          • 104
          • Country: Wales

          #5
          I would have said if it is a new turbo it should have been built with some sort of lube for the first time that it is ran! Just a guess tho!
          Liam
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          • Big_kev
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            • Dec 2006
            • 159
            • Country: Scotland

            #6
            Surely hand cranking the engine won't give you the oil pressure you need to pump oil to the Turbo.

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            • Billman
              S2Forum Freak
              • Nov 2004
              • 4129

              #7
              Unplug the Hallsender. Then normaly the engine will not start. Turn the key and let it turn the engine some seconds till you see oil pressure.
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              • Donker
                S2Forum Enthusiast
                • Nov 2006
                • 119
                • Country: Sweden

                #8
                Originally posted by Big_kev
                Surely hand cranking the engine won't give you the oil pressure you need to pump oil to the Turbo.
                Ah yes that's right. I was thinking about when a friend was about to start his newly built engine for the first time, and I remembered it wrong. He did use the starter to pull the engine around without the ignition connected, so he got oil through the system. I should not give answers I'm not sure about anymore.
                S2 sold.

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                • Ross
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                  • Aug 2005
                  • 3399
                  • Country: England

                  #9
                  When i replaced my turbo, I unplugged the injectors, let it turn over for about 10s, of for 10s, turn over again... after the 3rd try the oil guage had built up to about 2-3bar oil pressure, figured this is enough.

                  You could even leave the oil return hose off the block and wait to see oil seeping through, if that would keep you mind at ease!

                  Ross
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                  • Jonas_R
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                    • Jan 2004
                    • 3781
                    • Country: Denmark

                    #10
                    I like the idea of unplugging the fuel injectors.

                    Is there any problems with the plugs and no fuel?

                    /Jonas R.
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                    • 20Vcqdriver
                      S2Forum Maniac
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 829
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #11
                      Oil presure

                      Personally I would remove the spark plugs and remove the plugs from the ECU and crank the car over. With the plugs removed there will be little air passing the turbo vanes to rotate it and it will also turn the engine over faster as no compression to slow it down building up pressure quickly. Is a method normally applied to new engines on first start up.
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                      • S-Express
                        S2Forum Extremist
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 1133
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                        #12
                        un plug injectors and remove plugs, that way the engine spins much faster as the pistons are not having to work at compressing the air.
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                        • baltiboyS2
                          S2Forum Maniac
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 965
                          • Country: Scotland

                          #13
                          All you need to do is disconnect the hall sender remove the spark plugs
                          Leave the oil feed hose to the turbo disconnected if not done already put a clear plastic bag over the feed hose get some one to crank it over untill you see oil coming out of the pipe then fit the the pipe back onto the turbo now you know 100% that there is oil there in my experience you could have a blockage or any thing in that feed hose so its best to check you have good oil flow threw there otherwise its bye bye turbo pretty quick thats the way i have been taught to do it

                          Raj Aby

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                          • Jonas_R
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                            • Jan 2004
                            • 3781
                            • Country: Denmark

                            #14
                            Do I need to remove the sparks plugs or can I just unplug the ignition cables going to the spark plugs?

                            BaltiboyS2:
                            Is the oil feed line located on the top or on the bottom of the turbo?

                            Where can I find the Hall-sender on the 3B coupe?

                            /Jonas R.
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                            • LHD_Kid
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                              • May 2006
                              • 3696
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                              #15
                              As I read the advice.... remove the plugs, as this will mean the engine spins quicker as the pistons are not trying to compress the air...
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