Newsh Stroker Project

[urquattro-island]

friend of

mine in norway is running this with 700hp and no probs so. They deffo work for more then enough hp. He uses this dayli.

[urquattro-island]

and

this is the exact same engine that jonus drove, with 800+hp and no probs. So i would say thats prof. And some one asked if there was a stroker for sale, and i replyed i have one, no need to say bad stuff about engines that one, has not seen or letalone tried and tested.

[Jamo]

this is the exact same engine that jonus drove, with 800+hp and no probs. So i would say thats prof. And some one asked if there was a stroker for sale, and i replyed i have one, no need to say bad stuff about engines that one, has not seen or letalone tried and tested.

There is a stroker with the short pistons that blew up on the forum from Aronmatic.

We are not discusing your engine or giving it a bad name merely giving Newsh all angles and being objective about what stroker is best for his goals.

[magarv]

Yes, tall block is the key here. Tall block requires long rod. 144mm is not considered as such.

144mm rod and 95.5 stroke crank are not compatible. Most certainly not for 1000hp, sad but true.

No doubt the tall block is better when it comes to extremly high hp levels, both rod/stroke ratio and strenght of block itself!

But I am not sure if I fully agree that 144mm rod and 95.5 stroke are NOT compatible. I know more than one engine with 600-800hp levels that have run very well for a long time with such setup.

Jonus also used short block with 95,5 cranck in the 2004 season. With best time 1/4mile 10.07 and 238km/t. That engine was never dynoed but my guess is that it had very close to 1000hp.
That said: it was not a daily driver, but was driven in a lot of track and dragracing events.

In my opinion the big question when builiding high level hp engine is: Do you want an engine that runs 30000km a year for let say 5-6years without any problems?? Or a trackday racer with 5-10 000km a year with frequent service intervals??

[urquattro-island]

yes

i agree, he needs to find what he wants and go for that route. But to my remembrence, is there not a company in usa or something, can not find the link. That sells new both long and short block 5cyl engines
They werent that expencive either i think

[Jamo]

i agree, he needs to find what he wants and go for that route. But to my remembrence, is there not a company in usa or something, can not find the link. That sells new both long and short block 5cyl engines
They werent that expencive either i think

Eurospec, if you have a look at the links I posted 1st with the Red S6 the engine came from there. http://www.eurospecsport.com/stroker.htm

http://www.eurospecsport.com/engine5C4V.htm

They only do short ones at the moment according to motorgeek posts how true this is I don't know

[caterpillar]

you may use the 2,4 diesel eurovan block too,( 78hp) the diff are only you have to rebore the block from 79,5 to 81,0 or bigger....

[newsh]

Looks like I've got a lot of reading to do, I want an engine I can put a lot of miles on thats for sure..

[newsh]

On the Eurospec site when they use the term "short block" normally that means an engine without the head and ancilliaries, or does it mean as in the height of the block to differenciate it from the taller diesel block?

[Jon441cc]

Just the bottom end with the short block by the looks of it

[newsh]

Just the bottom end with the short block by the looks of it

Yes, but does it mean "just the bottom end" or does it mean "short" as opposed to "tall"

I guess I could always email them, there's no data on block height, crank throw or rod length that I can find.

[newsh]

So, if I was going for a "tall" block using a diesel block and crank from a van and bored to give 2.6L and running a 3071 on RS2 style mani and 3" turboback, what comp ratio would be best, bearing in mind I want good low and midrange.
I'm also tempted to use 3B cams for the instant pickup.

And where can I study the mods I need to do to the block?
I guess Pisobiker's thread would be a good start?

[caterpillar]

http://www.zatzy.com/showthread.php?...0&page=6&pp=20 HOW TO DO THE BLOCK FOR THE 95,5 MM CRANC AND 158X23 conrods

[newsh]

http://www.zatzy.com/showthread.php?...0&page=6&pp=20 HOW TO DO THE BLOCK FOR THE 95,5 MM CRANC AND 158X23 conrods

Mmm, language barrier, but good pics.

[newsh]

Here's the basic spec from the Red Baron S6 thread on Motorgeek.
This car sounds like it goes really well but if its a 2.6 short deck it must be running the 144 rods, right? Mmm. still lots to read, wish I could read Norwegian (if thats what it is )

I'm thinking GT3071 with an airbox and about 500HP so I should be alright with this short rod 2.6 setup I think.. May have to go for a reversed IM as well ..

Those who visited me a few months ago saw this car in stock form, here's a "teaser" since its getting very close to completion. Wink

Eurospec Shortdeck 2.6, 8.5 compression, fully balanced

Head ported with 2mm larger exhaust valves

Intake manifold opened and "hogged" to eliminate the bolt access pass-throughs

034 RS2 Replica exhaust manifold

K26/GT30R

034 TIAL 44mm drop in wastegate

Stromung turbo-back exhaust

Spec 2/3 clutch, lightened and balanced 7A flywheel