S1 blow-off sound ?

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  • s2driveruk
    Super Moderator
    • Jul 2003
    • 12696
    • Country: England

    #16
    Originally posted by Acidburn
    I was talking to s2driveruk about this and said i'd donate my turbo to him when I remove it so he can have a play at doing this
    lets see how long it lasts for
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    1992 3b S2 Coupe

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    • QuattroFever
      S2Forum Extremist
      • May 2006
      • 1360
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #17
      i don't get the idea of audi not running a DV back then? You hear people say it alot but is that really true??

      The road cars all had one and the turbo stalling could only have added to the lag that the s1 suffered.

      I have always wondered if it had a DV that let pressure off in stages rather than one big whooosh to save some manifold pressure between short gearchanges. Hence the staged chatter.

      Top secret DV. Just a thought or delusional inquisition
      Volcano ABY coupe

      Ant

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      • newsh
        S2Forum Obsessed
        • Aug 2003
        • 16226
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #18
        Not true, the WR quattros never had a DV, mine's been running without one since 1984 . I don't think the MBs did either, is it because the K-Jetronic mechanical fuel injection doesn't like them. The 3B engined RR with Motronic was the first to have one I think.

        S2 Coupe 3B Project


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        • QuattroFever
          S2Forum Extremist
          • May 2006
          • 1360
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #19
          delusional inquisition it is then
          Volcano ABY coupe

          Ant

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          • GT500
            S2Forum Fiend
            • Jun 2006
            • 2181
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #20
            Originally posted by newsh
            Not true, the WR quattros never had a DV, mine's been running without one since 1984 . I don't think the MBs did either, is it because the K-Jetronic mechanical fuel injection doesn't like them. The 3B engined RR with Motronic was the first to have one I think.
            spot on!

            Funny I never had stall with the wr bobbins engine.
            Newsh does yours do it?
            Rob..
            94 RS2 Noggy,LHD,MTM map,18"cup 1s,245/35/18,Bilsteins,RS2 H&Rs,Cup splitter.
            87 UR 20v ABY
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            96 A6 C4 2.5 TDI quattro avant,Ming,Wietec/eibach,chipped
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            • s2driveruk
              Super Moderator
              • Jul 2003
              • 12696
              • Country: England

              #21
              Newsh, yours was kida chirping at adi on gear changes, sounded sweet
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              • Error404
                Super Moderator
                • Mar 2007
                • 19789
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #22
                I don't believe that turbo stall will make a huge impact on turbo life TBH, but i suppose it depends what use your car gets and how much boost you're running. Lots of cars don't have a DV as standard fitment and still have good reliability.
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                Indigo ABY coupé
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                • newsh
                  S2Forum Obsessed
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 16226
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #23
                  Yeah it does a chirpy thing which is really quite nice, only running 1 bar of boost so not as though I'm going to snap a blade or bend the throttle butterfly though eh? I tried to fit a spare Forge valve I have to it a few months ago to see if it would keep the turbo spooled up better, it should do, trouble is on tickover it would pull the valve open so the air flap would close and shut off the fuel and stall the motor, right pain in the bum. So its either got to be a true Diverter Valve which means more complicated plumbing, or a twin piston thing I think. There's a roumour you can use a bleed valve in the line to the manifold but I've not tried that.

                  S2 Coupe 3B Project


                  Ur quattro restoration

                  S2 Avant

                  Boost is the new rock and roll!
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                  • G60Rallye
                    S2Forum Extremist
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 1321
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #24
                    It never been proven that compressor surge off throttle kills turbos. On throttle it will. So when these fast spooling turbos get going and the engine cant consume that much air it bounces back in the same way.

                    I wont be using a dump valve on my engine when its built. Then perhaps you guys can have some answers!

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                    • quattro84
                      S2Forum Maniac
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 947
                      • Country: Netherlands

                      #25
                      Surge will kill your compressorwheel.
                      It stresses the vanes in a way that they aren't designed for.
                      On the long term fatique will kill the blades.

                      You can doubt about my knowledge, I have my connections with MHI, the Dutch company that supplies Europe of Mitsubishi turbo's. I've seen durabilitytests on turbochargers that simulate loadcycles on compressors and they will fail, although it may take a while.

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                      • pixsaudisex2
                        S2Forum Possessed
                        • Sep 2004
                        • 3110

                        #26
                        you mean a noise like this best and loudest ive ever heard by far and puts a smile on my face every time.

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                        • Rocco
                          S2Forum Zealot
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 6393
                          • Country: Spain

                          #27
                          and after all...wich kind of setup we will need for have this lovely S1 DV sound???
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                          • QuattroFever
                            S2Forum Extremist
                            • May 2006
                            • 1360
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #28
                            Originally posted by pixsaudisex2
                            you mean a noise like this best and loudest ive ever heard by far and puts a smile on my face every time.

                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbIU6QOzQoA
                            Volcano ABY coupe

                            Ant

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