4bar FPR on stock RS2

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  • MarT2
    S2Forum Enthusiast
    • Feb 2006
    • 175
    • Country: Spain

    #1

    4bar FPR on stock RS2

    Hi all!

    What could happen if I mount a ABY FPR(4bar) on a stock RS2 (3'8bar)?

    The car can run good? Or I can have any problem with the ECU and the injectors?

    I have more cv and torque?

    Cheers
  • Jamo
    Retired OG Mod
    • Mar 2004
    • 21750
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    Why would you do this?

    you'd need to remap the car as you'd be running rich all the time if you did not.

    If you were doing it and then having the car remapped it would be fine.

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    • S2central.net
      Retired OG Mod
      • Jul 2003
      • 16590
      • Country: Northern Ireland

      #3
      It would run a little richer at WOT - we are talking about a very small change here... Adaptation in cruise will cater for this change.
      Paul Nugent
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      1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
      2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
      2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

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      • MarT2
        S2Forum Enthusiast
        • Feb 2006
        • 175
        • Country: Spain

        #4
        Ok Paul! So there is no problem to mount the ABY FPR?

        I buy a RS2 FPR throught ebay, but the seller send me a ABY FPR!!!

        What is WOT? Sorry for my english!

        Cheers

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        • GT500
          S2Forum Fiend
          • Jun 2006
          • 2181
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #5
          If you want 561 fault code and a knackered lambda go for it!
          Not the way to gain poer.
          WOT wide open throttle.
          Rob..
          94 RS2 Noggy,LHD,MTM map,18"cup 1s,245/35/18,Bilsteins,RS2 H&Rs,Cup splitter.
          87 UR 20v ABY
          97 S6 Avant
          96 A6 C4 2.5 TDI quattro avant,Ming,Wietec/eibach,chipped
          1967 Ford Mustang,Eleanor,460ci v8

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          • MarT2
            S2Forum Enthusiast
            • Feb 2006
            • 175
            • Country: Spain

            #6
            Finally I buy the ADU FPR and I will do some test with the 2 FPR's!

            Cheers

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            • EspenW
              S2Forum Extremist
              • Apr 2007
              • 1534
              • Country: Norway

              #7
              Going from a 3.8bar to a 4bar FPR will increase the fuel flow by approx 2.5% (square root of the pressure increase). It equals swapping the stock injectors (approx 360cc) with 370cc injectors.
              It will run slightly richer at WOT, but at part throttle, it will be well within the authority range of the OXS system, keeping the AFR around 14.7.
              Note, however, that stock RS2's seem to run pig rich, so making it even richer is not good.
              I run my fuel pressure from 2 to 3.6 bar depending on the mix of petrol an ethanol in the tank.
              1995 RS2 on Alcohol (6.8sec 100-200km/h)
              1994 80E Avant
              1986 2L Golf 2 on Alcohol

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              • M_GORDON
                S2Forum Extremist
                • Oct 2008
                • 1295
                • Home: Isle of Man Current: Vatican City State

                #8
                Originally posted by MarT2
                Finally I buy the ADU FPR and I will do some test with the 2 FPR's!

                Cheers
                Jose, test they and talk about.
                I bought one regulable between 3 and 5 and my meca say me that this´s broken...and I must mount my ABY frp another time.
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                • Knight Rider S4
                  S2Forum Possessed
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 3541
                  • Country: Scotland

                  #9
                  I am putting together my 3B with the same spec RS2 stuff but i was led to believe that fitting the 7A FPR would suit this set up...Is the 7A FPR not 4 bar?
                  93 S2 Avant Parting
                  91 URQ RR
                  02 A4 tdi Avant

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                  • S2central.net
                    Retired OG Mod
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 16590
                    • Country: Northern Ireland

                    #10
                    Yes 7A FPR is also 4bar... It is in the right package for easy upgrade on a 3B fuel rail.

                    3.8bar vs 4bar is in the noise - easily within adaptation limits as stated earlier for an ECU that expects either one...

                    The RS2 and S2 both run quite rich at WOT - factory programming is typically very conservative - to cater for aging of components, fuel quality etc etc... I would wager that an otherwise stock ABY (if any still exist) would run better at WOT on the 3.8bar FPR as they would be a little bit leaner - makes more power unless it induces knock with a leaner mix (good fuel required) or of course that EGTs get so high that its detrimental.
                    Paul Nugent
                    Webmaster http://S2central.net
                    Administrator http://S2forum.com

                    1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                    2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                    2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                    Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

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                    • GT500
                      S2Forum Fiend
                      • Jun 2006
                      • 2181
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #11
                      Don't forget my RS2 on standard maps stuck the 561 code up and used far too much fuel all from the FPR being 0.2 bar too high. This was the original 3.8 fpr gone wrong. My ECU couldn't deal with the extra pressure so why will others be ok?
                      Rob..
                      94 RS2 Noggy,LHD,MTM map,18"cup 1s,245/35/18,Bilsteins,RS2 H&Rs,Cup splitter.
                      87 UR 20v ABY
                      97 S6 Avant
                      96 A6 C4 2.5 TDI quattro avant,Ming,Wietec/eibach,chipped
                      1967 Ford Mustang,Eleanor,460ci v8

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                      • S2central.net
                        Retired OG Mod
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 16590
                        • Country: Northern Ireland

                        #12
                        I've done it without problems... dunno why your car threw up a code... could be a combination thing maybe with other variables contributing to it - like MAF or temp sensor out of spec (or on the edge).
                        Paul Nugent
                        Webmaster http://S2central.net
                        Administrator http://S2forum.com

                        1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                        2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                        2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                        Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

                        There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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                        • GT500
                          S2Forum Fiend
                          • Jun 2006
                          • 2181
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #13
                          Nope, all new.
                          Rob..
                          94 RS2 Noggy,LHD,MTM map,18"cup 1s,245/35/18,Bilsteins,RS2 H&Rs,Cup splitter.
                          87 UR 20v ABY
                          97 S6 Avant
                          96 A6 C4 2.5 TDI quattro avant,Ming,Wietec/eibach,chipped
                          1967 Ford Mustang,Eleanor,460ci v8

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                          • s2avant
                            S2Forum Fiend
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 2426

                            #14
                            Mine did the same when I was using stock RS2 software with the 4bar FPR. Fault codes, very rich running etc. Switched to RS2 3.8bar and it was spot on again.

                            Ben
                            the best intentions are fraught with disappointment - gil grissom

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                            • Jonas_R
                              S2Forum Possessed
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 3780
                              • Country: Denmark

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Knight Rider S4
                              I am putting together my 3B with the same spec RS2 stuff but i was led to believe that fitting the 7A FPR would suit this set up...Is the 7A FPR not 4 bar?
                              I'm running the 7A FPR on my RS2 setup ofcourse this is a custom map.
                              But the main issue is that the RS2 FPR won't fit that easily on the 3B fuelrail where as the 7A fpr is a much better fit. I believe the RS2 FPR is integrated into the fuel line on the ABY and ADU.
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