Oooops, did I just f*** up? Crank bolt etc.

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  • Error404
    Super Moderator
    • Mar 2007
    • 19789
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #16
    if the engine is loose theres no point in locking the flywheel over the normal crank lokcing tool - the whole engine needs restraining.

    I'd use spink's method, but again I loosened mine before i took it out the car - even then with a 6 foot scaffold bar on the end of a 3/4" breaker bar I swear me and my neighbour almost lifted the front of the car off the ground doing it - if yours has been tightened to spec with thread lock and the proper torque and been on there for years I recon you're looking at well over 1000lbft to crack it off again. Good luck
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    • WidowmakerS2
      S2Forum Addict
      • Oct 2007
      • 354
      • Current: Norway

      #17
      Originally posted by Error404
      if the engine is loose theres no point in locking the flywheel over the normal crank lokcing tool - the whole engine needs restraining.

      I'd use spink's method, but again I loosened mine before i took it out the car - even then with a 6 foot scaffold bar on the end of a 3/4" breaker bar I swear me and my neighbour almost lifted the front of the car off the ground doing it - if yours has been tightened to spec with thread lock and the proper torque and been on there for years I recon you're looking at well over 1000lbft to crack it off again. Good luck
      Oh, okay. I'll leave it where it is and find another one then.
      Gonna try to make a crank locking tool like Djones'. I'm just hoping the bolt isnt very tight.
      If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried.

      -CQ 3b "S2".

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      • Jamo
        Retired OG Mod
        • Mar 2004
        • 21750
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #18
        Heat, Heat, Heat, works a treat

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        • lind4hl
          S2Forum Fiend
          • Jul 2008
          • 2465
          • Country: Sweden

          #19
          i had to use the VAG tool and an 1½m pipe on the tool, they are bolted tight thats for sure!

          One thing i've learned we are way behind the Scandinavians!

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          • terrybullwon
            S2Forum Zealot
            • Mar 2006
            • 8782
            • Country: England

            #20
            Originally posted by Puglife
            Tough one, locking crank is difficult.
            I found heavy duty impact air gun worked for me but you need a crank locking tool and someone to steady engine.
            Good call Jay this is how mine came off. Also you can make something up with teeth to stop the flywheel turning i did this also.
            Chef

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            • Graham
              S2Forum Extremist
              • Jul 2003
              • 1622
              • Home: United Kingdom Current: Australia

              #21
              I agree, a seriously ballsy rattle gun will do it, you will need the compression of the engine though, if the head is off to will have to lock the crank some how, a nice 1" rattle gun should do it though. I cant see any easy way with leverage, unless you use a large reaction arm very close to the breaker bar, so the reaction arm rests on the floor and the breaker bar is 30 degrees clockwise from the reaction bar.
              Then push down on the breaker bar, you should be working against the floor and whole weight of the engine--that'le work.
              same principle of undoing two fittings in mid air un supported.
              If you need a drawing to explain give me a bell.
              Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler.--:Albert Einstein

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              • philS2
                S2Forum Addict
                • Nov 2004
                • 356
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #22
                we used to use an 8mm stemmed engine valve,heated up halfway down and bent at 90degrees.then just put the thing in one of the bolt holes.the valve head then goes onto the ring gear.only downfall is,that it's only on one tooth.oh and now and again it slips due to teeth with rounded valleys.

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                • chezz
                  S2Forum Addict
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 440
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Jamo
                  Heat, Heat, Heat, works a treat
                  Excessive heat will probably damage the Harmonic dampers rubber membrane and could cause distortion in the damper, which will then upset the balance of the crank and so on...

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                  • 4WheelDrifter
                    S2Forum Zealot
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 5773
                    • Country: Devon

                    #24
                    I had an engine that was very stubborn. I tried a 10' scaffold tube that I normally use, but holding the the actual engine still was very difficult.
                    In the end I locked the crank using a crowbar lodged in the flywheel bolts as usual, then got a 1" impact gun on the bolt. It made easy work of it. Unless I'd already loosened it.

                    As always a good tap with a hammer can help to crack any thread lock.
                    Be careful with heat, as said it can damage the damper/pulley, crank seal, so on.

                    Never lock the crank on one flywheel tooth. Have you seen the ring gear on its own? I wouldn't trust it.
                    SS

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                    • Graham
                      S2Forum Extremist
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 1622
                      • Home: United Kingdom Current: Australia

                      #25
                      I'd go easy with heat as well, its good on non moving bolts such as suspension bolts and tie rod adjustment turn buckles, not too good on rubber components, or the crank seal as heat will travel down the crank bolt into the crank possibly melting the seal or doing damage to the oil pump.
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