MTM Stage II setup?

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  • AndyP
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Feb 2004
    • 6049
    • Country: England

    #1

    MTM Stage II setup?

    Can anybody tell me what set up is required to run MTM stage II 303PS chips? Things I need are:-

    Injectors?
    Fuel pressure regulator?
    Wastegate spring?
    MAP sensor?
    What boost should I be seeing?
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    1991 Audi S2 3B - 2.5 Stroker engine
    1997 A6 2.5TDi quattro avant - C4
    1976 RD250E / 350LC cafe racer
  • GazzaG60
    S2Forum Freak
    • Mar 2007
    • 4133
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    thought you just bought a full good working motor andy.

    do you want to change it already?

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    • GazzaG60
      S2Forum Freak
      • Mar 2007
      • 4133
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #3
      sorry thats t2andy isnt it.

      id suggest after consulting repo and others along with my findings.

      1. standard reg is easy fine for that.
      2. id boost control or have it mapped on the standard spring.
      3. depends on the ecu setup. sure paul can help here. i got 4 bar in my vems.
      4. 1 bar on mine will see 300hp.

      imho mtm is old hat and the same can be got for less now unless you really want mtm.

      on a 2.5 id be going SC6057 full v band turbo for mid 2k spool and running to whatever but thats a 1200 dollar turbo.

      i doubt im helping here sorry.

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      • Jamo
        Retired OG Mod
        • Mar 2004
        • 21750
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #4
        Originally posted by AndyP
        Can anybody tell me what set up is required to run MTM stage II 303PS chips? Things I need are:-

        Injectors?
        Fuel pressure regulator?
        Wastegate spring?
        MAP sensor?
        What boost should I be seeing?
        307 bhp should be achievable on stock ABY setup

        IIRC stock ABY setup will support 320 bhp on RS2 turbo

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        • turbo s4
          S2Forum Fanatic
          • Mar 2009
          • 58
          • Country: Belgium

          #5
          i run those chips in an s4
          everything stock
          289 pk last mai on the rollers
          tom

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          • twoqu
            S2Forum Possessed
            • Sep 2003
            • 3103

            #6
            Andy,
            Not sure whether he still has it or if you can get hold of him, but he might have some answers for you!



            Surely the biggest difference was the turbo (small RS2 upgrade, RS2 cold side, small K26 hotside).

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            • Ian Simmonds
              S2Forum Fiend
              • Jun 2005
              • 2858
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #7
              Originally posted by turbo s4
              i run those chips in an s4
              everything stock
              289 pk last mai on the rollers
              tom
              Ours runs StageII and ran out at an almost identical 290ps...
              85 WR Urquattro, 85 20vT International liveried RallyRep
              93 MTMS2 Avant

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              • europeanme
                S2Forum Possessed
                • Oct 2005
                • 3817
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                Originally posted by Jamo
                307 bhp should be achievable on stock ABY setup
                if only that were true...

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                • AndyP
                  S2Forum Zealot
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 6049
                  • Country: England

                  #9
                  Originally posted by twoqu
                  Andy,
                  Not sure whether he still has it or if you can get hold of him, but he might have some answers for you!



                  Surely the biggest difference was the turbo (small RS2 upgrade, RS2 cold side, small K26 hotside).
                  Martyn has sold that car now, but it's still local so I'll try getting touch with him.
                  sigpic
                  1991 Audi S2 3B - 2.5 Stroker engine
                  1997 A6 2.5TDi quattro avant - C4
                  1976 RD250E / 350LC cafe racer

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                  • AndyP
                    S2Forum Zealot
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 6049
                    • Country: England

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Ian Simmonds
                    Ours runs StageII and ran out at an almost identical 290ps...
                    Do you know if you still on a stock 250KPa MAP sensor? What sort of boost are you seeing?
                    sigpic
                    1991 Audi S2 3B - 2.5 Stroker engine
                    1997 A6 2.5TDi quattro avant - C4
                    1976 RD250E / 350LC cafe racer

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                    • Jamo
                      Retired OG Mod
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 21750
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #11
                      Originally posted by europeanme
                      if only that were true...
                      Didn't mean turbo wise, K24 doing 300 is like the magical 4 minute mile.

                      I think Rusty will get there, if he threw in a 7A exhaust cam

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                      • Ian Simmonds
                        S2Forum Fiend
                        • Jun 2005
                        • 2858
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        Originally posted by AndyP
                        Do you know if you still on a stock 250KPa MAP sensor? What sort of boost are you seeing?
                        I don't, sorry Andy... The old girl hasn't been on a rolling road since 2003 when we got her and when that figure was generated... (My experience with rolling roads suggests it's probably +/- (more likely) 5% too)...

                        To my knowledge, the car is totally standard (even paper airfilter) apart from the MTM StageII remap.
                        85 WR Urquattro, 85 20vT International liveried RallyRep
                        93 MTMS2 Avant

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                        • S2central.net
                          Retired OG Mod
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 16590
                          • Country: Northern Ireland

                          #13
                          @AndyP - if those MTM chips are not scrambled, I can have a quick look at their contents to answer those questions as it should be self evident to me unless they have completely munged the 'normal' Motronic structure but having seen inside MTM274PS chips for the AAN I'd be confident that is not the case.

                          As said above - I'd expect circa 1bar on redline for max power in 300bhp country and stock injectors on stock FPR should be fine and dandy. The wee stock turbo aint so happy running quite that much boost on the redline - so a good intercooler is required to keep air temps sensible up here.
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                          • twoqu
                            S2Forum Possessed
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 3103

                            #14
                            As I said earlier, pretty sure that they junked the K24 on this conversion:

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                            • S2central.net
                              Retired OG Mod
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 16590
                              • Country: Northern Ireland

                              #15
                              Sorry yeah - that makes more sense alright - zee infamous 'small hybrid' again
                              Paul Nugent
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                              1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                              2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                              2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                              Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

                              There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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