Are DVs ok for ADU / ABY?

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  • bad8008
    S2Forum Addict
    • Jan 2010
    • 255
    • Country: Brunei

    #1

    Are DVs ok for ADU / ABY?

    Hi all.
    as the title speaks.
    I was told that DVs shouldn't not be put on the ABY.
    Is this a myth?
    I didn't quite catch the reason behind it, but its something like it can upset the engine...
    2002 A3 8L
    2005 TT 3.2 Quattro
    2007 A4 Avant B7 (hers)
    2009 100 C4
    2009 A6 Avant (hers)
    2010 RS2
    2010 S2 Saloon
    2011 KTM SuperDuke 990 Olive Green
  • lind4hl
    S2Forum Fiend
    • Jul 2008
    • 2465
    • Country: Sweden

    #2
    Are you talking open DV, cause all turbo cars has a dv..

    If you are talking open DV, then a question to you, why are you changing it?

    One thing i've learned we are way behind the Scandinavians!

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    • bad8008
      S2Forum Addict
      • Jan 2010
      • 255
      • Country: Brunei

      #3
      yea, the open DV.
      Having a thought of getting a Forge DV. but I know there are quite a number out there and dunno which are good ones....
      2002 A3 8L
      2005 TT 3.2 Quattro
      2007 A4 Avant B7 (hers)
      2009 100 C4
      2009 A6 Avant (hers)
      2010 RS2
      2010 S2 Saloon
      2011 KTM SuperDuke 990 Olive Green

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      • HPmuirt
        S2Forum April Fool
        • Apr 2005
        • 3014
        • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

        #4
        I am sure an expert will be along in a minute, but until then: -

        I believe that the main reason is that the Motronic uses a MAF to calculate air flow in the intake tract; therefore a Dump Valve cannot be used because it will create a rich mixture, damage the cat and may cause misfires. Plus the ECU will throw errors.

        I also assume that if you went VEMS etc you could switch from Diverter to Dump but I have no idea why you would bother.

        Cheers n

        Si
        95 ABY S2 Coupe - Ragusa Green
        Subtle mods here and there


        2011 A5 3.0 TDi - Lava Grey
        With every option available (except a towball)

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        • quattro
          S2Forum Maniac
          • Dec 2004
          • 768
          • Home: Wales Current: England

          #5
          iv used open dv for 3 years with nothing bad to report from using it, go for it!
          Probably the longet S2 project in history EVER!

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          • Big Lee M
            S2Forum Fiend
            • Jun 2007
            • 2571
            • Country: England

            #6
            I have a Forge DV and it works fine. Doesn't throw any codes up and runs perfect even have a AFR graph to prove it. That just reminds me think it's time to take it out for a little service.
            Just some finishing touches to do now

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            • repo
              S2Forum Maniac
              • Dec 2004
              • 893
              • Country: Finland

              #7
              Get APR R1 valve from Awesome GTI and You do not have to worry about DV ever again.
              Everything less than 2 bar is considered to be naturally aspirated

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              • popdemonic
                S2Forum Extremist
                • Dec 2007
                • 1304
                • Country: Thailand

                #8
                I used to have HKS SSQVIII on my car.it's fine on my car.the quality on HKS is great.
                one of a few I5 from Asia.

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                • Jonas_R
                  S2Forum Possessed
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 3780
                  • Country: Denmark

                  #9
                  Originally posted by repo
                  Get APR R1 valve from Awesome GTI and You do not have to worry about DV ever again.
                  Are they really that good? I have one i was considering using, I guess I should give that a go.
                  Sleeper S2 Avant +450

                  A6 Avant 2.7t Stage 3

                  Audi S2 Coupe RS2'ed

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                  • repo
                    S2Forum Maniac
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 893
                    • Country: Finland

                    #10
                    There was a batch where the rivet broke, but they were pulled back. If You buy one now, I'd say it will most likely be the last time You even think about the whole valve.

                    Unless You have pressure drop in the boost piping, and need to swap to stiffer spring. Nevertheless, I would never even consider any other make.
                    Everything less than 2 bar is considered to be naturally aspirated

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                    • Rusty
                      Super Moderator
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 18953
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #11
                      OPen DV is toss on a stock car IME, made power delivery less smooth and caused rich running just after a gear change, you could hear the exhaust popping and backfiring from it, won't do the cats much good. Forge DV007 is a good option, 4 years' use for me with no issues. 006 is the same style but with a larger case. APR is a good option from what I've heard, it's more money but you get what you pay for. I also ran a GFB fully adjustable valve for a bit, serious piece of kit and could be adjusted to give a small vent to atmosphere and recirc most of the gases, helps a lot and sounds good. They were ÂŁ250 new but ebay turned up good for that.
                      Cheers'en, AndyC
                      1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                      • s2_bo
                        S2Forum Zealot
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 6067
                        • Home: United Kingdom Current: France

                        #12
                        I found that the BOVs i was using where completely fine on both my s2s and the rs2. Pick up was faster and harder over Stock N710, although the stock ones where prob due a change anyway.

                        I havent tried a lot of different makes but the Turbosmart ones i used where very good. I dont think there is much that can beat them.

                        I never had any problems with the moronic and vent to atmosphere valves. A lot of people seam to say they have but maybe thats down to other things or the valves they are using.
                        91 S2 coupé - RIP
                        98 S8 - Luxury barge

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                        • Rusty
                          Super Moderator
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 18953
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #13
                          On mine it was the DV Bo, the pickup after a gearchange was sluggish and yerky and it would pop from burning unburnt fuel, swapped back to the forge, all A1 again. It was fine on full recirc but on full vent to atmosphere it was poor. Depends whether you're after noise or having the car run as best it can, it's like cone filters and aibox arguements, if you like the noise and sensation then who cares if it's not perfect...
                          Cheers'en, AndyC
                          1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                          • popdemonic
                            S2Forum Extremist
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 1304
                            • Country: Thailand

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Rusty
                            On mine it was the DV Bo, the pickup after a gearchange was sluggish and yerky and it would pop from burning unburnt fuel, swapped back to the forge, all A1 again. It was fine on full recirc but on full vent to atmosphere it was poor. Depends whether you're after noise or having the car run as best it can, it's like cone filters and aibox arguements, if you like the noise and sensation then who cares if it's not perfect...
                            Sequencetial Type would help on that.
                            one of a few I5 from Asia.

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                            • CREASE
                              S2Forum Enthusiast
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 120
                              • Home: Jersey Current: United Kingdom

                              #15
                              Originally posted by repo
                              Get APR R1 valve from Awesome GTI and You do not have to worry about DV ever again.
                              It's faultless:

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