F£&*$( allen bolt got screwed.... now what?

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  • newsh
    S2Forum Obsessed
    • Aug 2003
    • 16226
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #16
    I don't think there's the space to get grips on that bolt..

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    • A80Avant
      S2Forum Obsessed
      • Sep 2005
      • 10873
      • Country: Greece

      #17
      indeed

      there is no room and also come to think of it, im not sure i can even find a thin enough cutter to use either. ill try the torx tomorrow if i have time.

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      • madpugger
        S2Forum Extremist
        • Sep 2007
        • 1901
        • Country: Scotland

        #18
        Granted there is not much, but I think you could get on vertically (not the best way, but you really would be amazed at what vise-grips will undo!)

        By the way, i am not connected to the company! I have just wasted enough time and money on other alternatives to never but a different make again!

        Le Mans 2012
        Nurburgring 700
        1995 S2 Avant

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        • rj scotty
          S2Forum Fiend
          • May 2006
          • 2195
          • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

          #19
          http://www.northerntool.com/shop/too...6845_200306845

          It's this type you want.

          madpugger is spot on !
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          • jimmcf
            S2Forum Enthusiast
            • Jan 2011
            • 105
            • Home: United States Current: United Kingdom

            #20
            why not just drill the head out leaving you with the rest of the threaded part in the head which once the cam cover has been removed you should be able to get out with pliers or mole grips

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            • A80Avant
              S2Forum Obsessed
              • Sep 2005
              • 10873
              • Country: Greece

              #21
              even if i do get it vertically, you cannot twist the thing afterwards as the head is in the way!

              drilling it would be my last resort i guess.

              i ordered some new bolts and as soon as i have them ill get on with it.

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              • madpugger
                S2Forum Extremist
                • Sep 2007
                • 1901
                • Country: Scotland

                #22
                Drilling would be my last resort too.

                You will find that the right torx bit, or better still multi spline bit, hammered in will do the job best. It can also be handy to get a set of vise-grips on the extension rather than using the ratchet, as you apply pressure keeping the extension square, get someone else to hammer the top of the extension fairly hard, keep doing this while applying constant pressure with the grips. this jarring of the hammering action will break the corrosion in the threads and it will suddenly release. Give it as much pressure as you can on the grips without thinking that the multi spline is going to start to slip.

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                Nurburgring 700
                1995 S2 Avant

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                • A80Avant
                  S2Forum Obsessed
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 10873
                  • Country: Greece

                  #23
                  so hammering it while it is already in rather than twisting it will do the job?

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                  • epic
                    S2Forum Extremist
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 1317
                    • Country: England

                    #24
                    Vise grips

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                    • madpugger
                      S2Forum Extremist
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 1901
                      • Country: Scotland

                      #25
                      Yes, you twist it, giving it constant pressure, while at the same time hammering it. Not so much twisting force that the bolt rounds again, enough to slacken is should it not be siezed. The hammering will break the corrosion and the bolt will suddenly turn. Fairly sharp dunts with the hammer in a 0.5Hz or so fashion

                      Le Mans 2012
                      Nurburgring 700
                      1995 S2 Avant

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                      • TimE-J
                        S2Forum Extremist
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 1292
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #26
                        yes really you need to give it as much shock as possible as this will help to loosen the corrosion. A little penetrating oil like wd40 will do it good as well.
                        96 S2 aby Coupe. Rebuild Project
                        96 mk3 golf tdi daily.

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                        • madpugger
                          S2Forum Extremist
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 1901
                          • Country: Scotland

                          #27
                          Also rather than drilling it, if that doesn't work (get yourself a nice Torx and multi spline bit set first) then I would remove the WG and get grips on it. You will spend more time drilling it and pr1cking about that way than just taking the WG off and getting grips on it...

                          Le Mans 2012
                          Nurburgring 700
                          1995 S2 Avant

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                          • newsh
                            S2Forum Obsessed
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 16226
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #28
                            Imagine its a nail you're trying to drive in

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                            • GT500
                              S2Forum Fiend
                              • Jun 2006
                              • 2181
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #29
                              Thats that Greek over tightening dude again!

                              If you don't manage with the very good sugestions.. come on down!

                              Rob..
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                              • A80Avant
                                S2Forum Obsessed
                                • Sep 2005
                                • 10873
                                • Country: Greece

                                #30
                                haha, no i was the one doing the tightening this time, but i used a torque wrench for it!

                                thanks for the info and invitation Rob. I may have to. I have booked in for a plastic part to be fitted in 2 weeks. if i dont do it then, ill report back.

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