Catastrophic engine failure

[Lloyd]

I have now found a doner car, and will be swaping the engines over very soon. I have taken the engine out before but not with the gearbox, I would appreciate any advis. Is it easier to take the engine out with or without the gear box.
I have had a few more thoughts about the engine failure,and I think it is possible that the original cause of the faliure is down to the first mapping of my ECU,which cost me a brand new turbo.After fitting the re mapped ecu,the car was running 2.2bar and god now's how much tourque, enough to slip a brand new clutch,the car was almost undrivable at the time, as soon as you put your foot on the pedal boost was at 2bar plus.
It was diagnosed at the time as a faulty none bosch map sensor,and I think this is where the damage to the engine occured.stock rods put under to much presser only have to give a mm or so to stop an engine from making power,hensh the problem that MRC had.
We will hopefully get to the bottom of it soon.in the mean time thank you all for your advise and support,and all the offers for engines and help ect, I will do my best t answer all the emails and PM.


Many Thanks

Lou

Had your wastegate been tampered with?

[Phil Payne]

.. on reflection I remember several miles before this happened something appeared to fall of the car,and I sore it. bounsing around in my rear view mirror, ..

It's possible a piece of debris did just enough damage to, e.g., an oil cooler line or the turbo drain line to cause loss of oil too small to be obvious when driving but enough to drain the sump in six miles.

Not seeing a warning could be because the oil pressure warning light isn't working - I've seen three this year already. Always check the oil light comes on when you switch the ignition on.

[pasbogdan]

why don't you open that thing?to see if was oil or air/fueling?I open this page daily hoping to see pics and conclusions.

Regards

[quattro84]

I open this page daily hoping to see pics and conclusions.

Regards

+1...

Post mortems rule!

[220bhp]

The wastegate was checked when the turbo blew and was working ok it was the correct size and had never been tampered with,diaphram was ok. both water and oil lights came on when the engine blew.
I will open the engine and post some pictures ASAP but the car is at a friend commercial garage and he wants it done all at once,both engines out and doner engine straight in.As he is not chargeing me for the facility I have to respect his wishes.
In the mean time any advise as to the best way to swap the engines,ie with or without gearboxes would be much appreciated.

[Phil Payne]

.. the car is at a friend commercial garage and he wants it done all at once,both engines out and doner engine straight in.

That's a VERY tall order. The 'gotcha' rate doing engine swaps is enormous and with some parts very hard to find it could easily sit for a few weeks.

[220bhp]

I have found a good an engine to go sraight in , heres is a picture of part of a rod I
found in the engine bay

[cooperquattro]

not for a REAL mechanic..its a couple of days work max

[Jamo]

not for a REAL mechanic..its a couple of days work max

Agree mine was done with the help of the forum in a weekend, engine out, new engine in

[Acidburn]

The wastegate was checked when the turbo blew and was working ok it was the correct size and had never been tampered with,diaphram was ok. both water and oil lights came on when the engine blew.
I will open the engine and post some pictures ASAP but the car is at a friend commercial garage and he wants it done all at once,both engines out and doner engine straight in.As he is not chargeing me for the facility I have to respect his wishes.
In the mean time any advise as to the best way to swap the engines,ie with or without gearboxes would be much appreciated.

with gearbox would be my choice, if its a 5 speed coupe then leave the shafts/hubs together and slide it all in on a hoist/load leveller then you just have the linkage and prop bolts to do up at the back.

[220bhp]

What gaskets will I need to do this,the only thing I am swaping from the old engine to the new are the RS2 manifold, turbo, injectors fpr and 3inh downpipe.

[Phil Payne]

not for a REAL mechanic..its a couple of days work max

If all goes well ...

Then you come across a bolt that some monkey lad has dipped in blue Loktite and overtorqued.

Or the right engine mount nut spins even with an air wrench and the Allens securing the bracket to the block have all been rounded out.

**** happens. Getting away with it a few times doesn't mean you won't one day hit a showstopper - it's best to plan for that.

[madpugger]

For all the cost of gaskets, and the hassle if they leak, just replace the EM and DP ones anyway.

Are you sure you don't want to put in rods?

I can understand why your mate wants to take it out/put it in in one go, its not about doing it in a day or two, its about not forgetting what goes where, not having **** laying around for ages etc. My engine was out for months, its a bloody nightmare trying to remember where everything is!

[220bhp]

Mad****** I could not agree more, I have had this engine out twice before,and it sat around for sometime, labeled all the parts and photographed everything,but when it came to putting it back together again in the reverse order I had forgotten, and as this is one exspireance I defo want to forget,I am not taking any chances'
I am a not cabinet maker not a mechanic,so we will see how long it takes.

[Phil Payne]

.. but when it came to putting it back together again in the reverse order I had forgotten, and as this is one exspireance I defo want to forget,I am not taking any chances'.

That's what digital cameras are for. A 14mp Sony Cybershot T99 lives permanently in my right pocket. Focuses down to 1cm. I use a laptop with a card slot on the front so I can look at any picture really close up.