what oil to rev the engine to 8000rpm?

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  • jorge s2
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    • Feb 2009
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    #16
    I think that the oil you use right now is good enough for it (castrol edge 10 60 ) , right ?
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    • prj
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      • Mar 2010
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      #17
      How high it needs to be revved will be seen during mapping, meaning where the torque curve starts falling off.

      With a 3076R, it won't be more than 7400 rpm.
      What it will be with that lottery turbo (also called CT), I have no idea. After all I have read in this forum, and also about ITS on other forums, I would never run one of those myself.
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      • Rocco
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        • Aug 2007
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        • Country: Spain

        #18
        Originally posted by jorge s2
        I think that the oil you use right now is good enough for it (castrol edge 10 60 ) , right ?
        What? No no,it stills have 0/40 or something like this .

        Originally posted by prj
        How high it needs to be revved will be seen during mapping, meaning where the torque curve starts falling off.

        With a 3076R, it won't be more than 7400 rpm.
        What it will be with that lottery turbo (also called CT), I have no idea. After all I have read in this forum, and also about ITS on other forums, I would never run one of those myself.
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        • andy10v
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          • Mar 2009
          • 5996
          • Country: Scotland

          #19
          Have you read JP's thread?



          Originally posted by RWD19T
          As the car stands on the road I'm finding myself short shifting at 6500-6800 it actually feels strange carrying on to 7.8k although feels faster when I do. Stock lifters I tend to say 7500 continuous with 8k peak on 16v lumps so as they're the same I'm sticking to the same rule.

          Oilpump wise they start to cavitate above 8k a problem that's made worse by running too thick an oil. I use 5w40 fully synth from Audi the platinum stuff. As volume of flow is more important than pressure at high rpm, running a temperature suitable oil with less top end pressure is the way to go as it is less susceptible to cavitation and will help pull the heat away from moving parts much better than a 10w50 for example.
          Originally posted by RWD19T
          Supertech springs, valves and retainers. Stock late aftermarket ina hydraulic lifters which appear to be identical to the lightweight ones everyone sells in the US.
          There was another thread regarding modifying the oilways to prevent all the oil ending up in the head at higher rpm.

          Or DRY SUMP
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          • Rocco
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            • Aug 2007
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            • Country: Spain

            #20
            Originally posted by andy10v
            Have you read JP's thread?







            There was another thread regarding modifying the oilways to prevent all the oil ending up in the head at higher rpm.

            Or DRY SUMP


            thanks, i have read it

            so i think with a good 5W40 is more than enough
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            • caterpillar
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              • Jun 2004
              • 2480

              #21
              There was another thread regarding modifying the oilways to prevent all the oil ending up in the head at higher rpm.
              -link please-

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              • Thuppu
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                • Sep 2010
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                • Country: Finland

                #22
                Starts on side 3, two last posts: http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=53758

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                • Rocco
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                  • Aug 2007
                  • 6393
                  • Country: Spain

                  #23
                  MOTUL 300V 5W40
                  RED Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 16 of 250
                  BLACK Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 189 of 250
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                  • terrybullwon
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                    • Mar 2006
                    • 8782
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Rocco
                    MOTUL 300V 5W40
                    Smells great
                    Chef

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                    • Rocco
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                      • Aug 2007
                      • 6393
                      • Country: Spain

                      #25
                      Originally posted by terrybullwon
                      Smells great
                      are you using the same James? or maybe for your track car it is better the 300V 15W50
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                      • Trankelstein
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                        • May 2008
                        • 119
                        • Country: Sweden

                        #26
                        oilfilm

                        What about oilfilm breakdown?

                        I haven´t got any firsthand experience with it (thankfully) but it´s a pretty common statement on the German 5-cyl forums that the probability of an oilfilm/->bearing failure rises significantly after 7,5krpm with stock oilsystem.
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                        • terrybullwon
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                          • Mar 2006
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                          #27
                          I think if i used the Motul a oil change might cost £300
                          Chef

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                          • Rocco
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                            • Aug 2007
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                            #28
                            Originally posted by terrybullwon
                            I think if i used the Motul a oil change might cost £300
                            2 liters 30€ in Spain

                            so..WTF would you do to spend 300gbp every 7000kms?

                            do you like to drink it on weekend nights with your friends?
                            RED Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 16 of 250
                            BLACK Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 189 of 250
                            LWB Audi Sport Quattro project

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                            • terrybullwon
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                              • Mar 2006
                              • 8782
                              • Country: England

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Rocco
                              2 liters 30€ in Spain

                              so..WTF would you do to spend 300gbp every 7000kms?

                              do you like to drink it on weekend nights with your friends?
                              Dry sump tank takes alittle more than wet sump and i would change it alittle more often its about £35 for 2lt over here so maybe my £300 was alittle extreme but its still not cheap
                              Chef

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