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  • prj
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    • Mar 2010
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    #16
    Originally posted by Sleeper_Avant
    Rocco, thats a very low EGT reading
    That's because it's probably in the middle of 3rd gear, and not towards the end of the 5th.

    Couldn't agree more about component limits. You can make really high numbers with small turbos on the dyno, but the car will not survive WOT on autobahn.
    Pretty simple.
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    • Rocco
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      • Aug 2007
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      #17
      Originally posted by Sleeper_Avant
      Rocco, thats a very low EGT reading
      Gt3076 0.82ar



      Check the picture to see where is located the egt sensor,just after the hotside.

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      • Rocco
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        • Aug 2007
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        #18
        Originally posted by prj
        That's because it's probably in the middle of 3rd gear, and not towards the end of the 5th.

        Couldn't agree more about component limits. You can make really high numbers with small turbos on the dyno, but the car will not survive WOT on autobahn.
        Pretty simple.
        Yes,third gear !
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        • prj
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          • Mar 2010
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          #19
          Originally posted by Rocco
          Yes,third gear !
          You look at EGT at the end of 5th or 6th gear, at 7000 rpm. Not at 3rd gear where it is always going to be low.
          You should remember that from when we mapped your coupe
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          • Rocco
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            • Aug 2007
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            #20
            Originally posted by prj
            You look at EGT at the end of 5th or 6th gear, at 7000 rpm. Not at 3rd gear where it is always going to be low.
            You should remember that from when we mapped your coupe
            I don't remember it now

            I'll try 5th gear /5500 rpm

            I can't do more because my rev limiter is so gay at 6000 rpm.it looks a diesel my car

            With wet tarmac I can't try anything with this car.


            7000 rpm 6th gear? Are you crazy
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            • nip
              S2Forum Extremist
              • Apr 2006
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              #21
              Dimitri so with a .82 housing ya recon it would be better than the .63 , I thought the spool would be much better with the 63 as in quicker , I'd like loads of power round the streets rather than motorway power what would u recommend

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              • Rocco
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                • Aug 2007
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                #22
                Originally posted by Rocco
                I don't remember it now

                I'll try 5th gear /5500 rpm

                I can't do more because my rev limiter is so gay at 6000 rpm.it looks a diesel my car

                With wet tarmac I can't try anything with this car.


                7000 rpm 6th gear? Are you crazy


                Originally posted by nip
                Dimitri so with a .82 housing ya recon it would be better than the .63 , I thought the spool would be much better with the 63 as in quicker , I'd like loads of power round the streets rather than motorway power what would u recommend
                You can't go faster than 30 milles/ hour in the streets !


                Or do you want to be like hoffer76?
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                • nip
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                  • Apr 2006
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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Rocco
                  You can't go faster than 30 milles/ hour in the streets !


                  Or do you want to be like hoffer76?
                  Private streets I meant lol

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                  • Rocco
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                    • Aug 2007
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by nip
                    Private streets I meant lol


                    Tbh,probably you would be happier with one smaller turbo.... Maybe gtx3071 0.82 ar?
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                    • prj
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                      • Mar 2010
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                      #25
                      Originally posted by nip
                      Dimitri so with a .82 housing ya recon it would be better than the .63 , I thought the spool would be much better with the 63 as in quicker , I'd like loads of power round the streets rather than motorway power what would u recommend
                      As I said before, due to the gearing on the car you will not be any quicker with the 0.63 A/R in pretty much any situation than you will be with 0.82 A/R.
                      The only situation is if you forget to shift gear. But from 4000 rpm there is no difference, and you can always get to 4000 rpm when the car is moving by shifting into first for example...

                      With the 0.63 A/R you will have to shift into first exactly the same way. Second will be still way too laggy for around town.

                      You still will get 2 bar in first gear with the 0.82 A/R...
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                      • Sleeper_Avant
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                        • Mar 2009
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                        #26
                        simplistically, the morre you stress the engine the more you will get real time, or more pure EGT readings, these are best IMO

                        quick blasts will not generate true engine EGT from what i have seen, Dmitri will probably back this up i presume.

                        EGT should be (rule of thumb) full load, 750-850 degrees C depending on fueling
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                        • nip
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                          • Apr 2006
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by prj
                          As I said before, due to the gearing on the car you will not be any quicker with the 0.63 A/R in pretty much any situation than you will be with 0.82 A/R.
                          The only situation is if you forget to shift gear. But from 4000 rpm there is no difference, and you can always get to 4000 rpm when the car is moving by shifting into first for example...

                          With the 0.63 A/R you will have to shift into first exactly the same way. Second will be still way too laggy for around town.

                          You still will get 2 bar in first gear with the 0.82 A/R...
                          Sound Dimitri il deffo go for .82 cheers

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                          • prj
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                            • Mar 2010
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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Sleeper_Avant
                            simplistically, the morre you stress the engine the more you will get real time, or more pure EGT readings, these are best IMO

                            quick blasts will not generate true engine EGT from what i have seen, Dmitri will probably back this up i presume.

                            EGT should be (rule of thumb) full load, 750-850 degrees C depending on fueling
                            I usually aim to have 850C post-turbo at the end of 5th gear.
                            This means 950-1000C turbine inlet temps, and this is as high as I go.

                            But yeah, that's why I was saying before, that you can make lots of power on the dyno if you just do a quick pull. All the components will be cool, IAT will be low and so on. When on the road and accelerating flat out through all the gears it will be a different story.

                            This is for example why meth injection is so good - it's like driving in winter all the time.
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                            • DJones
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                              • Jun 2005
                              • 2020
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                              #29
                              Originally posted by nip
                              Sound Dimitri il deffo go for .82 cheers
                              Mine runs a GT3071.82 and it performs perfectly for me. In a UR though...

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                              • nip
                                S2Forum Extremist
                                • Apr 2006
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                                • Home: United Kingdom Current: Abu Dhabi

                                #30
                                Originally posted by DJones
                                Mine runs a GT3071.82 and it performs perfectly for me. In a UR though...
                                Lol but your cheating tho your ur is lighter tho, not like the blister s2s

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