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  • diesel des
    S2Forum Possessed
    • Feb 2004
    • 3896

    #31
    On motorgeek that 5857 was on a smaller ar turbine housing than the 30r and still slower to spool by 250 RPM. But it did make more power. More like a gtx3576r maybe...

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    • A80Avant
      S2Forum Obsessed
      • Sep 2005
      • 10873
      • Country: Greece

      #32
      Have a look at my thread. Photos may not be there as they were old but facts are. I had the Wagner manifold and SQ EM. HXS40 was simply a huge turbo. The head wasn't ported but I wasn't looking at the power figure but the huge lag at the time. I took it out for a gt30R and was very happy

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      • mushasho!
        S2Forum Enthusiast
        • Apr 2007
        • 163
        • Country: United States

        #33
        GTX3071r is a better matched turbo for the AAN than GTX3076r... The problem with GTX3076r is the turbine wheel. Garrett realized this a created the GTX3576r. As for the Precision turbos, I chose to use a PTE5862 on a .64 vband housing, which is equal to GTX3576r but with a 3mm larger turbine inducer.

        PTE5862
        Comp-58mm inducer 76.2mm exducer
        Turbine-71mm inducer 61.8mm exducer

        As a Reference, below are the GTX sizes for comparison:
        GTX3576
        Comp-58mm inducer 76.6mm exducer
        Turbine-68mm inducer 62mm Exducer

        I like the reduced back pressures that larger turbines provide. Lower egt=more power up top.

        My build thread for more info...


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        • jaychen
          S2Forum Addict
          • Jun 2013
          • 269
          • Country: Australia

          #34
          a HTA3582 has popped up for sale for a great price.

          I'm thinking about pulling the trigger, is it overkill for 400whp? Any idea on spool time?

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          • mushasho!
            S2Forum Enthusiast
            • Apr 2007
            • 163
            • Country: United States

            #35
            Originally posted by jaychen
            a HTA3582 has popped up for sale for a great price.

            I'm thinking about pulling the trigger, is it overkill for 400whp? Any idea on spool time?
            That turbo will get you in the low 600's on e85. You'll be making 400whp by 4500rpm... Killer turbo...



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            • jaychen
              S2Forum Addict
              • Jun 2013
              • 269
              • Country: Australia

              #36
              Originally posted by mushasho!
              That turbo will get you in the low 600's on e85. You'll be making 400whp by 4500rpm... Killer turbo...



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              funny you replied,

              universe works in weird ways.

              have just spent the last few hours reading your build thread and saving important info.

              great great info

              I don't plan to rev past 7500 just yet, 3000rpm isnt all that much, when does it start to build boost?

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              • A80Avant
                S2Forum Obsessed
                • Sep 2005
                • 10873
                • Country: Greece

                #37
                I was instructed the same if I wanted a safe and above 500hp mark (not whp ) to use a GTX3576 vs 3076 for the same reasons. With the 0.63ar it would reach that number. But cost put me off.

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                • Sonic
                  Administrator
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 5514
                  • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

                  #38
                  What does a gtx3576r cost out of interest, and how does the .63 compare to .82?
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                  • Jamo
                    Retired OG Mod
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 21750
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #39
                    Originally posted by mushasho!
                    GTX3071r is a better matched turbo for the AAN than GTX3076r... The problem with GTX3076r is the turbine wheel. Garrett realized this a created the GTX3576r. As for the Precision turbos, I chose to use a PTE5862 on a .64 vband housing, which is equal to GTX3576r but with a 3mm larger turbine inducer.

                    PTE5862
                    Comp-58mm inducer 76.2mm exducer
                    Turbine-71mm inducer 61.8mm exducer

                    As a Reference, below are the GTX sizes for comparison:
                    GTX3576
                    Comp-58mm inducer 76.6mm exducer
                    Turbine-68mm inducer 62mm Exducer

                    I like the reduced back pressures that larger turbines provide. Lower egt=more power up top.

                    My build thread for more info...


                    Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 2
                    Exactly that, I said this from day one of the release of the gtx3076r years ago

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                    • Jamo
                      Retired OG Mod
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 21750
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Sonic
                      What does a gtx3576r cost out of interest, and how does the .63 compare to .82?
                      I really wouldn't do that, running the GT35r turbine in that small a housing would seriously hurt flow

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                      • Billman
                        S2Forum Freak
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 4129

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Mr30psi
                        Is your head stock or ported? Also i think e85 really helps with the lag more concentrated power during combustion. the 3071r is a fantastic little turbo dont get me wrong...but its fantastic at being LITTLE. I have read nothing but great about the super40. Does your build have HO manifold like a rs2 or tubular or are you stock, that may have helped with the flowing of the hotside of the turbo. Im sorry to see your experience with the super40 go so bad i really want to run one for a 500hpAWHP urs4 without throwing to much timing, to keep it super reliable. One turbo for sure i want to try is the ProComp snails those triple ball bearing beast are crazy!

                        -kavon(Mr30psi)
                        Why is it bad to have 1.8 boost at 4200 RPM on 3rd on a 600hp turbo?
                        Go Holset or Go RS4

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                        • jaychen
                          S2Forum Addict
                          • Jun 2013
                          • 269
                          • Country: Australia

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Sonic
                          What does a gtx3576r cost out of interest, and how does the .63 compare to .82?
                          second hand i wouldnt pay more than 1kAUD for one, new.. a lot more. easily 2 something.. $2,199.00

                          i thinks its advised that 2.2 dont go below .82, surging and flow comes to mind.

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                          • mushasho!
                            S2Forum Enthusiast
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 163
                            • Country: United States

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Jamo
                            I really wouldn't do that, running the GT35r turbine in that small a housing would seriously hurt flow
                            Not entirely true... A 62mm GT35 turbine in a .63 will certainly still out flow and keep EGT's reduced a lot better than a 55mm GT30 turbine in a .82 housing. As a matter of fact I remember seeing someone testing a GT30 wheel in a custom 1.06 housing and it did nothing but worsen spool with no power gain. Doesn't matter where you put that 55mm GT30 wheel, if it's matted to the GTX76r compressor it does not have the ability to spin it to it's full potential. The 62mm GT35 turbine does & .63 housing is fine for 7500rpm use under 2bar.

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                            • Jamo
                              Retired OG Mod
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 21750
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #44
                              I've tried the .63 GT35r it was terrible however it was in a stroker environment, this was because hapster had success with it but the turbine restricted and caused horrible EGT's

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                              • Sonic
                                Administrator
                                • Jul 2006
                                • 5514
                                • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

                                #45
                                I'm just trying to make head or tail of all the GT/GTX 3071/3076/3576r .63/.82AR options

                                I assume the GTX3576R .63 is the one to go for in terms of power vs spool if money was no object?

                                (And no, i'm not planning to upgrade )
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