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  • Christophski
    S2Forum Possessed
    • Mar 2009
    • 3632
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #31
    Ask Alex, error 404 for the loom. His is what I have and it's totally oem looking and works a treat and is cheaper than anywhere else plus he is a top bloke. Get the taller coils from a tfsi engine and you are set to go. I have a thread on here somewhere with the part numbers for the Lucas coils I got but I can't find it without a computer lol

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    • Christophski
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      • Mar 2009
      • 3632
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #32


      There you go, this thread has the Lucas numbers in it. Dmb908 I think?

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      • UrS4boy
        S2Forum Obsessed
        • Feb 2006
        • 11859
        • Country: Canada

        #33
        Originally posted by Christophski
        Ask Alex, error 404 for the loom. His is what I have and it's totally oem looking and works a treat and is cheaper than anywhere else plus he is a top bloke. Get the taller coils from a tfsi engine and you are set to go. I have a thread on here somewhere with the part numbers for the Lucas coils I got but I can't find it without a computer lol
        Not sure about Lucas but I am sure about this:

        Last edited by UrS4boy; 28 June 2013, 07:09.
        RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
        94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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        • Christophski
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          • Mar 2009
          • 3632
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #34
          These Lucas ones are in my car and running so I know they work fine and no trimming required for an aby

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          • Thuppu
            S2Forum Freak
            • Sep 2010
            • 4115
            • Country: Finland

            #35
            Well, I belive the OEM ones are also proven.

            Audi UrS4 Avant 2.5 20vt - twincharged - Project
            Audi 80q B4 Sedan 2.2 20vt - Daily user
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            • Sonic
              Administrator
              • Jul 2006
              • 5514
              • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

              #36
              I have the v8 coils in my aby and the cover fits perfectly with a little trimming on the underside... that said i understand it's not a good idea to fit it due to the heat.
              S2Forum.com Administrator

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              • Cymru1
                S2Forum Addict
                • Sep 2008
                • 436
                • Country: Wales

                #37
                Was looking at these...

                Enhance your 1992-1995 Audi S4/S6 with our vented Coil Cover Plate for ideal airflow. Custom 304 stainless steel, fits 1.8t coils. Shop now!



                May and try as get something similar laser cut.
                Attached Files

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                • driftin jo
                  S2Forum Fiend
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 2222
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #38
                  If enough people are interested I can get the cols at a good price,
                  the taller red TFSI OEM ones that is, part no. 06E 905 115 E

                  They will be about £130 plus postage if 3 or more people want them.

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                  • merlin's S4
                    S2Forum Extremist
                    • Jan 2005
                    • 1539
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #39
                    Originally posted by driftin jo
                    If enough people are interested I can get the cols at a good price,
                    the taller red TFSI OEM ones that is, part no. 06E 905 115 E

                    They will be about £130 plus postage if 3 or more people want them.
                    Genuine ones?? Then yes please!
                    '93 S4 Avant now back on the road complete with new shiny go faster bits.

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                    • UrS4boy
                      S2Forum Obsessed
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 11859
                      • Country: Canada

                      #40
                      Apikol coil pack kit info update

                      Originally posted by Cymru1
                      Was looking at these... http://www.apikol.com/index.php/prod...oil-cover.html
                      May and try as get something similar laser cut.
                      Go ahead. Won't work with the taller coil packs. Here is what Apikol told be yesterday:

                      What I said to them:

                      To: info@apikol.com
                      Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 3:53 PM
                      Subject: Brendan: The UrS4/S6 coil pack kit


                      > You should probably be offering the kit with the 4.2L V8 115E coils. They
                      > are lasting longer and supposedly handle the dwell better. I was going to
                      > point a fellow in the UK to your kit but I stopped because you are still
                      > offering the older, shorter, coil packs.
                      >
                      > I bought the red 115Es from Genuine Audi Parts in San Diego (Bill) for
                      > about $15 a pop. I am sure you could get a better deal in bulk.
                      >
                      > Dave F.

                      What they said in reply:

                      "Hi Dave, we do have the red coils available to ship with the AAN harness
                      kits, but don't really advertise it, since they do not fit under our nice
                      stainless steel cover. Also, since the last revision to the 115D 1.8T coil,
                      we haven't really seen any failures like the previous version(s). I have
                      actually been running the red coils on my 1.8T for testing purposes, but
                      can't say that there is a noticeable difference when compared with the 1.8T
                      coils.

                      Anyway, thanks much for the feedback!

                      Cheers,

                      Doug Schuler
                      Apikol -Performance Automotive Components
                      303-731-3571 - office
                      866-505-4126 - fax
                      Apikol. 2,742 followers · 4 were here. Full-service European automotive repair facility, with a focus on performance upgrades on VW, Audi, BMW, and Porsche.

                      www.apikol.com"
                      RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
                      94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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                      • merlin's S4
                        S2Forum Extremist
                        • Jan 2005
                        • 1539
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #41
                        Originally posted by UrS4boy
                        > I bought the red 115Es from Genuine Audi Parts in San Diego (Bill) for
                        > about $15 a pop. I am sure you could get a better deal in bulk.
                        $15???

                        Bargain!
                        How come we have to pay £30 odd? Seems like we're being stitched up again.
                        '93 S4 Avant now back on the road complete with new shiny go faster bits.

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                        • UrS4boy
                          S2Forum Obsessed
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 11859
                          • Country: Canada

                          #42
                          Originally posted by merlin's S4
                          $15??? Bargain! How come we have to pay £30 odd? Seems like we're being stitched up again.
                          Don't know why the pricing is so much different. They certainly aren't made in the US so go figure.

                          Oops. The price went up from when I bought a set 2 years ago.

                          $17.50 now.

                          http://genuineaudiparts.com/parts/in...&siteid=214407
                          RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
                          94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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                          • Cymru1
                            S2Forum Addict
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 436
                            • Country: Wales

                            #43
                            Originally posted by merlin's S4
                            $15???

                            Bargain!
                            How come we have to pay £30 odd? Seems like we're being stitched up again.
                            Just tried Audi directly out of interest..... £165 + postage for a full set.
                            So guess £35 each near enough.

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                            • europeanme
                              S2Forum Possessed
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 3817
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #44
                              Originally posted by UrS4boy
                              Hmm...I am running red 115Es on my AAN with the AAN *cam* cover and they don't sit that high. (??!!) Maybe you meant 2 or 3 mm?

                              Here is my AAN engine bay, as shown in this photo from Strut Bar 101:

                              once again Dave you've earned your position on this forum as chief guru...
                              I re-checked the coils in day light this time and the difference is more like 5-10mm but my main concern, as I run without a top cover, how do you stop garbage falling around the coils, landing next to the spark plug and then in-advertantly falling into the head once you remove the plugs for whatever reason...

                              got any tips for this "Uncle" Dave?....

                              as for Bill's price (per Dave's earlier posting) shipping will be about $40 for a set and then it cost me about £28 for import duty although that was on 1 set.....well in the eyes of cutoms it was 1 set @ $75)

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                              • UrS4boy
                                S2Forum Obsessed
                                • Feb 2006
                                • 11859
                                • Country: Canada

                                #45
                                Originally posted by europeanme
                                once again Dave you've earned your position on this forum as chief guru...I re-checked the coils in day light this time and the difference is more like 5-10mm but my main concern, as I run without a top cover, how do you stop garbage falling around the coils, landing next to the spark plug and then in-advertantly falling into the head once you remove the plugs for whatever reason...got any tips for this "Uncle" Dave?....
                                I am not a guru. I just know a little about the AAN (and by extension, the ABY and ADU) and how it works (or what breaks, etc). *AND* I like to share what I know.

                                Hints? Try these:

                                1. Always run the belly pan. Keeps a lot of crud from entering the engine bay.
                                2. Never run any cover whatsoever over those 1.8T/2.5TFSI coil packs. Heat kills them. Any cover = more heat = earlier coil failure.
                                3. The coils do come with a rubber seal. The original shorter ones had to be trimmed to sit down far enough. The tight seal kept crud out of the spark plug well. With the taller coils, this might not work as well.
                                4. Always vacuum around the coil packs before removing them to change plugs (or tighten the plugs 30 Nm (22 lb ft)).
                                5. After removing the coil packs, I have a modifed shop vac tool with about 8 inches of 1/2" (13 mm) rigid plastic water pipe that I have duct-taped to the vacuum tool. I put that down the spark plug well before I remove the plugs. Spend a couple of minutes per spark plug well.
                                6. Once the plugs are out. I use the vacuum tool again.
                                7. Once I have vacuumed again, I use a piece of wooden dowel with a shop rag taped to the end to wipe off the sealing surface where the metal plug crush washer will land.

                                Oddly enough, I am just headed out to remove the original 2005 1.8T coil pack prototype harness that I am still running on my RS2'd 93 UrS4 to install a good (I hope) used Apikol harness (much neater than my prototype harness). Bought the used harness and 5 red 115E coils for US$200 plus shipping a few weeks ago.
                                RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
                                94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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