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  • PRY4SNO
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Mar 2009
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    #121
    Here's another, focused on the EFR7670 and some Garrets.

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    • A80Avant
      S2Forum Obsessed
      • Sep 2005
      • 10873
      • Country: Greece

      #122
      Very interesting figures on the 7163 EFR. Makes me think that might be my next choice.

      Do these come without the BOV or solenoid? Especially since we use different equipment?

      I also noticed this one only comes as 0.85ar but still has a beautiful minimal lag with ability to reach 500hp

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      • Billman
        S2Forum Freak
        • Nov 2004
        • 4129

        #123
        In this test as you can read the EFR7163 was with 0.63AR turbine housing while the EFR 7670 was with 0.82. Also the GTX3076 tested had also a 0.82 AR turbo. You cant really compare.
        Go Holset or Go RS4

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        • Albert
          S2Forum Extremist
          • Aug 2003
          • 1500
          • Country: Poland

          #124
          The below graph is the GT3076r with smaller more comparable .63ar housing.






          With GTX3076R we would probably see similar spool but more top end power.
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          • nicksonmsport
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            • Mar 2014
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            #125
            Those borg warner seem to spool up very well ans give good torque. But they do come with internal wg and dump valve built in. Can these be removed easily enough to run ext wg etc.

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            • Billman
              S2Forum Freak
              • Nov 2004
              • 4129

              #126
              Full boost (20psi) at 3500 rpm with EFR 7163 with 0.85AR turbine housing on 2.5 lt Subaru engine.

              Go Holset or Go RS4

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              • S2central.net
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                • Jul 2003
                • 16590
                • Country: Northern Ireland

                #127
                Originally posted by nicksonmsport
                Those borg warner seem to spool up very well ans give good torque. But they do come with internal wg and dump valve built in. Can these be removed easily enough to run ext wg etc.
                diesel-des has a variant of the EFR6758 that runs external WG and DV... dunno how much of the external WG is off the shelf option vs 'desmods'
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                • Thuppu
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                  • Sep 2010
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by Billman
                  Full boost (20psi) at 3500 rpm with EFR 7163 with 0.85AR turbine housing on 2.5 lt Subaru engine.

                  http://www.full-race.com/store/turbo...163-turbo.html
                  Nice price! And you get same result as with an tractor turbo.

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                  • A80Avant
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                    • Sep 2005
                    • 10873
                    • Country: Greece

                    #129
                    Originally posted by Thuppu
                    Nice price! And you get same result as with an tractor turbo. [emoji481]
                    The HX35S is 800 euros and add the shipping cost that's going to be around 900 euros.

                    Buying a garrett is in the region of 1500-1600 euros and as they are more readily available you can pick them up on most turbo shops.

                    The efr I don't know. But if you were to order it from the USA then I'd expect 2000$ or 1550euros with shipping included.

                    So the price difference is there but it's not 350euros for a holset as it's been repeatedly mentioned on several occasions.

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                    • Billman
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                      • Nov 2004
                      • 4129

                      #130
                      This EFR 7163 has a 57/71mm compressor and turbine with a large diameter of 63 or 64. Cant find the small diameter though. This turbo is HX35 range. Not super not fancy hybrid.

                      Appart from the above not only KKD sell Holsets. I never bought a Holset for 800 Euros. There are also other sellers....
                      Go Holset or Go RS4

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                      • vti2
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                        • Jul 2010
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                        #131
                        You kann get a Holset for 700€ from Turbozentrum-Berlin

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                        • Albert
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                          • Aug 2003
                          • 1500
                          • Country: Poland

                          #132
                          You get what you pay for
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                          • Jaswan
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                            • Apr 2011
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                            #133
                            a responsive turbo is a good think, but too much boost/torque low down will break something.

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                            • Albert
                              S2Forum Extremist
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 1500
                              • Country: Poland

                              #134
                              Originally posted by Jaswan
                              a responsive turbo is a good think, but too much boost/torque low down will break something.
                              yes ! over 600Nm problems start, specially on low revs
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                              • diesel des
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                                • Feb 2004
                                • 3896

                                #135
                                What sort of problems other than clutch slip. I want over 500 ft lb....

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